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Originally posted by There&Back:

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Originally posted by Mr.Frugality:
Hi sound's like an air bag solenoid problem. If one is bad, it send's wrong info. to computer, making it look like both are bad. The solenoid located at top of air bag CAN be changed with rear of limo being lifted/held by jackstand's. Just raise the rear enough for you to get your head/body underneath, use jackstand to support weight of car, try not to raise more than you have too, reason: you want to reach the top of airbag from below with your arm. Go underneath car near axle, look up and find small air line that goes to solenoid at top of air bag. Take a small (like hobby tool small) flathead screwdriver, "pop" the small clip off of solenoid in an upward motion, don't worry about destroying old clip since new solenoid has a new one included. Now CAREFULLY (when the solenoid pops out, it will release the pressure and air in bag, be careful) twist the solenoid till it won't turn anymore, PULL SOLENOID OUT CAREFULLY, now with solenoid out, disconnect air line by pressing down on o'ring washer and pull on line at same time. Install line on new solenoid by pressing into o'ring washer until you feel a click, you will know that it's locked by pulling on line, if it comes out, repeat. I would replace both since the part new is around $30.
If you don't want to mess with this, just bypass the system. Here's an easier way than I explained in last post: Raise rear (both left and right side)of car so rear wheel's are just touching the ground. Use jackstand's to support weight of car. What your doing here is taking pressure off of the airbag's. Now jump the compressor so it turned on. With compressor on, look at rear bag's. Are they filling up at all? If yes, while bag's are filling, slowly lower each side of car. Turn swith in trunk to "OFF" and turn compressor off when desired height is reached. If bag's did not attempt to fill up, one or more solenoid's is locked in the closed position and is not letting air in.

put new solenoids on and NOTHING took the computer out of the loop and jumpered the compressor NOTHING.

I am ready to scream!!!

The only thing left to replace is the computer and the height sensor, but by the time I go nickel and dime very thing to death I could put spring on there.

Any other thoughts will be appreciated.

Thanks

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Originally posted by Mr.Frugality:
Hi sound's like an air bag solenoid problem. If one is bad, it send's wrong info. to computer, making it look like both are bad. The solenoid located at top of air bag CAN be changed with rear of limo being lifted/held by jackstand's. Just raise the rear enough for you to get your head/body underneath, use jackstand to support weight of car, try not to raise more than you have too, reason: you want to reach the top of airbag from below with your arm. Go underneath car near axle, look up and find small air line that goes to solenoid at top of air bag. Take a small (like hobby tool small) flathead screwdriver, "pop" the small clip off of solenoid in an upward motion, don't worry about destroying old clip since new solenoid has a new one included. Now CAREFULLY (when the solenoid pops out, it will release the pressure and air in bag, be careful) twist the solenoid till it won't turn anymore, PULL SOLENOID OUT CAREFULLY, now with solenoid out, disconnect air line by pressing down on o'ring washer and pull on line at same time. Install line on new solenoid by pressing into o'ring washer until you feel a click, you will know that it's locked by pulling on line, if it comes out, repeat. I would replace both since the part new is around $30.
If you don't want to mess with this, just bypass the system. Here's an easier way than I explained in last post: Raise rear (both left and right side)of car so rear wheel's are just touching the ground. Use jackstand's to support weight of car. What your doing here is taking pressure off of the airbag's. Now jump the compressor so it turned on. With compressor on, look at rear bag's. Are they filling up at all? If yes, while bag's are filling, slowly lower each side of car. Turn swith in trunk to "OFF" and turn compressor off when desired height is reached. If bag's did not attempt to fill up, one or more solenoid's is locked in the closed position and is not letting air in.

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Originally posted by Mr.Frugality:


Now if you really want to keep this repair cheap and reliable, you can do what I did:
Take a piece of wire long enough to go from the battery to the air compressor (I used a pair of jumping cables, but if you use this, be very careful not to touch the other end of cable to any part of car while connected to battery)with one end of wire attatched to battery post + , take the other end of wire and splice into red wire on compressor (I used a clean razor blade to peel just enough insluation off red wire to wrap other wire on, by doing this you are keeping the main wire on compressor in one piece, not cutting it so when your done, a small piece of electrical tape is all that's needed to cover the missing insulation, now quickly turn the ignition key to the on position so the solenoid's can open, go to right rear wheel well and place hands under wheel well, lift in a rocking motion as hard as you can, let go, repeat several times until you get the air bags 100% filled (or till the height you want), immediatly go to trunk and switch the air suspension switch off, take jumping wire off of compressor, turn key off.