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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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Limos & Taxis are as Oil & Water, they don't mix. Over & over it is proven that the taxi industry has been through lobbying & payola sticking it to the limo operators of whom many are consider small operations. As this is happening taxi Barons are introducing luxury sedans to their stables.
How taxi Barons are able to accomplish their deeds is strictly inter-twined with the TLPAs mission of keeping regulation on "local" levels. On the local level, it is much easier to wield influence with the politicos through the age old art of payola. Recent examples of Taxi led attacks on the industry includes the rate increases in Houston, taxi ops imploring Tampa Commissioners to cease issuing permits to intrastate carriers, Nassau's taxi backed TLC putting the screws to Suffolk & NYC for-hires, the fiasco brewing in Detroit, and more recently highlighted in Limo Digest, Colorado operators were on the verge of having a dumb law repealed that requires sedans to have a tv & beverage service. The limo operators were on their way for this repeal when as stated in the article, "that is when the several lobbyist employed by the taxi companies pounced" and the bill was shot down. What is disturbing or should be to those of us not in the taxi business is the number of limo association heavies in bed with the taxi Barons by direct business connections and their positions on the TLPA Board. Also, who is directing the TLPA TLPAshould give a clue of who is looking out for who. When the taxi payola Houston politicos went after limo rates did the TLPA join in support of the limos? Could it be that the reason they didn't is because a Houston Taxi Baron sits on the TLPA? The only thing more worthless then the "talk the talk" with no "walk the walk" NLA is the TLPA. The TLPA is a TAXI association period. From time to time in this thread, name by name the "in the bed" relations will be exposed. Raymond Turner, Greater Houston Transportation Co. TLPA Taxi Division Commitee Member TLPA Director Robert McBride, Metro Taxi, Denver TLPA Director William Cotter, Metro Taxi, Denver Voting Past President TLPA Board "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
Limo God Location: Lupton mich USA
Registered: May 30, 2002
Posts: 2256
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Some regulation is required to insure the public is served. Take the Cable industry. If it were not for some Government regulation, an isolated subdivision on a remote lake like mine would not have cable or even phone service for that matter. Government regulation tells the Cable or Phone company that if you want to serve that densley populated area where you can make "Big Bucks" you also need to service that area where you may not make a profit if you want us to grant you permission to string lines in our Township.
Taxies are regulated to insure that neighborhoods receive the same level of service as the Airport. We in the Limo business still have the option of picking and choosing who we can have as our Customer. The only thing I can see that needs to really be regulated is vehicle safety, insurance and Chauffeur background which for the most part is being addressed. David E. Merrill |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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The restraint of trade limo crowd spends dollars for evil ends...
Dean Schuler |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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In a free market service reins supreme. It is a known fact that jurisdictions with one or 2 Taxi Barons have less populated areas underserved & due to caps no way for new entrepreneurs to establish service to these areas. A topic often brought up in Tampa where the Taxi monopoly have roots in Ft Lauderdale under TLPA Taxi Baron Heavy's.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: gunny, "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
Limo Master Location: MN USA
Registered: February 19, 2003
Posts: 721
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I believe in getting rid of the monopoly over the taxis, but increasing the numbers won't make them all more money, it will just make the taxi stand lines longer. And, this is JUST the taxis in Minneapolis, it doesn't take into account all the surburban companies that pay to go in and out of the city. So, if there are 323 allowed now, that number will be larger than 700 by the time the other taxi companies come from the suburbs to work downtown also.
I worked in Minneapolis for years. Always seemed to be more taxis than fares. A lot of guys standing around waiting for the "call" to earn some money. With their lease fee to the main company, most made little money unless they took a long fare. They have a lot of turnover also. Only one making out is the cab company. The drivers, not so much unless they own the cab and sub-let to the main company and collect a percentage also. There is one company that has all of it's drivers wear tuxes. The also have sedans and limos. This way they can move drivers to what ever they need, whenever. It's alway nice to get a limo driver who smells of insence and has ketchup on his shirt for a night out in style or a AP pickup. What a dispatching headache! Oh, and the limos have taxi radios in them too for the added ombiance! |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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Here's an article that the TLPA doesn't want wide distribution of:
Mayor Busts Open Minneapolis' Taxi Cartel Is this the same city that pulled intrastate limos out of its regulatory some time back? Is this the same city that wrenched the RNC from Tampa? Cities competing for major crowd drawing convention type venues cannot afford TLPA backed, taxi driven, monopolizing, Draconian regulatory agencies. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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The transportation establishment has made that mistake with me before...
Dean Schuler |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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Dean, I believe it's more like the TLPA & NLA better not underestimate me or my legal team. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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Gunny, Just don't underestimate the forces in play.
Dean Schuler |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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The Nazi's were sharp dressers also & were very serious with their intentions. The TLPA is about empire building & are nothing but a group of thugs hiding behind the laws they paid for. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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Gunny, I recently attended the TLPA Trade Show in Las Vegas. I found the association to be extremely well organized and focused. The members were well dressed and had intelligent comments to share in the seminars. I met and spoke with the Taxi Driver of the Year and the Paratransit driver of the year. Also good conversations with the people that run the TLPA. These folks are serious about what they do and are not to be taken lightly. The same applies to the bus associations-UMA and ABA. I had a number of lengthy conversations with Norm Littler, Chief Lobbyist for the American Bus Association when he came to town in August.
Dean Schuler |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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Rate integrity is the issue they have with limousine "operators ".
Dean Schuler |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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As long as there are the few wielding their influence and power to negatively affect the majority, the majority has the obligation to squash the cockroaches.
If one is writing a check that supports these cockroaches solely for prospering business opportunities, he/she themselves become a cockroach. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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It is an ongoing battle that my friend Joe Jordan of the Houston Limousine Association has spoken about at great length.
Dean Schuler |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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And the NLA thinks they have it rough. The TLPA kicked out a memo to its members dtd 6 July 2006 encouraging the faithful to fill out its questionnaire for the fact book. As of the memo date only 62 cab operations & 12 limo ops have sent in the survey.
Next hit is nominations for Operator & Driver of the Year Awards, only 8 taxi driver & 3 taxi operator of the year nominations received. Oh yeah, limos? Zero have been received. As a further tie in of the taxi industry infiltrating the ranks here is a little tid bit. LCT #21 largest 2006 fleet operation "Tri County" in Ft Lauderdale listed in July's LCT as owned by Lorraine Wilde. A look on Fl Division of Corporations shows the business registered to Florida's Top Taxi Baron & the TLPA's Treasurer. Lorraine Wilde is listed on the Division site though along with her NLA board member buddy as registered agents of the Florida Limousine Association. Connect the dots! "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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I learned a long time ago from a man named Bob Matherson of Long Island's infamous Oak Beach Inn Nightclubs who won millions in suits against corrupt government officials that if you don't bang on the door no one will open it.
So I bang and keep banging & when tired I will start kicking. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
Participant Registered: September 14, 2004
Posts: 34
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Does everyone know the dirty word from the TLPA playbook ? The word that sends shivers down the backs of the TAXI - BARONS who control our limousine business. This one word will bring an instant response and mobilization from the TLPA.
DEREGULATION Start a revolution in your area. Say it loud, say it clear, say it over and over again and watch the skin crawl over the taxi owners faces. Demand DEREGULATION this industry will not survive if we continue along this current path of over-regulation with no representation. |
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Participant Location: Orange County
Registered: July 05, 2006
Posts: 9
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Right on, we're here to help you guys out (the limo operators) we would rather see you get the money than a taxi
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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Easy does it salesman. Didn't read no bashing either.
Cool Limos though. Would be a great gimmick except for cities that prohibit any vehicle other then cabs being painted taxi yellow. But there are always waivers. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
Limo Master Location: Hollister, CA, USA
Registered: March 02, 2003
Posts: 321
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Wasn't "bashing" anyone... Just thought these vehicles looked an awful lot like the Taxi's that someone referred to as "Oil and Water".
Looks pretty mixed here. Sorry I brought attention to your site (and by the way, it's "for hire"). Jim Martin Night Out Limousine Hollister, CA |
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