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Newcomer Registered: June 11, 2008
Posts: 2
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THIS IS THE LIMO COMPANY TO AVOID. We booked them for our daughters prom. They claimed they only accepted cash and no credit cards or checks, but used the credit card as a binder only. We picked our limo out personally. The owner seemed nice so we agreed to the cash terms. (SCHMUCKS WE ARE) we booked for 6pm pickup time for ten kids - oversized. THe school changed the start time an hour earlier and we informed them a month ahead of time, they gave us a verbal confirmation of the change. On the day of the prom, they showed up and hour and 20 minutes late at 6:20. The limo was not the one we ordered and later on found out one of the TEN kids had to sit on someone elses lap. The driver needed directions and talked on the cell phone the entire time, driveing irresponsibly and erratically. THe kids arrived at their prom an HOUR late and missed the beginning festivities. THe limo company would not take any responsibility for arriving late or switching cars. IN fact, in their rebuttal to a BBB complaint I made, they fabricated an entire story of why we paid by cash and how kids backed out the last minute and we tried to get our money back and a smaller limo. What LIARS. Let this be a warning to everyone out there - do not pay cash. Our war is not over, but this company is definetly one that should be avoided.
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Limo Master Location: San Diego
Registered: May 02, 2008
Posts: 265
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Your explanation is is very possibly correct, but not a valid excuse. When you say 8-10 passenger limo, I see a 10 pack(or a 120") that can hold 8 in the back legally or 9 if the front passenger seat is removed. In the industry(especially during prom), many companies will allow 10 in the back. It's still illegal. Illegal max capacity, illegal unlicensed driver(needs commercial for more than 10 people in vehicle including driver), illegal insurance(under coverage). That being said, many companies do this all the time and don't get caught. Before I ran my own company I once fit 25 sixth graders and a teacher into a 10 pack for graduation. I said no many times and the principal, vice principal and all the teachers and parents were making me out to be the bad guy if I didn't take them all. I still said no, until they told me I had to pick the kids that couldn't go. It felt like a B version of Schindlers List and a caved in. I believe that Hawk looked at and booked a Lincoln 145"(14 pack, 12 in the back) and for whatever reason(mechanical or probably overtime on previous job), didn't get what they booked. CHP in san diego acts like theeir real serious about the proper capacity and insurance to operate legally, so I do. I have to have a TCP "B"(bus) licese and $5 million insurance(instead of $1.5 million) to legally operate my 25 passenger(16-18 comfortable) Excursion limo. My company, Limo Kings, is just a small company and I do things legit. But I find that most of the companies in town, including the biggest and supposedly the best are cutting corners when it comes to this. If they ever get in a bad accident and gross negligence is proven, they'll learn the hard way. Tough times don't last. Tough people do. |
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Limo Protege Location: Hanover, PA
Registered: May 25, 2007
Posts: 150
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In the future, when you do book with a limousine company for your event, airport transfer, etc., get a contract, make sure it is readable (some fax machines make it blurry), that is the one thing that could protect you, as the client, as well as the company. Whether you paid cash, check, or credit card shouldn't make a difference as long as there is a receipt stating so. Yes, we don't have the other side of the story, and cannot verify it's validity, but, for you, as a consumer, I can offer up advice to prevent this from happening to you,or other consumers, again. If you make any changes to the itinerary, do it as soon as you find out, that way you can get the agreed upon change in writing, that way you know that they will be there at the new time. Insist upon receiving this, not just a quick confirmation over the telephone, but something written down and received by you via email,fax, letter, etc., so there will be no confusion the day of your service. Most standard limousines are built with the seating capacity of 8-10 pax, some with 6 pax, and some with only 4, and there is no way a 6 pax could seat 10 at all. I'm guessing that you did have an 8-10 pax limousine, with the same body length, standard, as the previous one you looked at, if this was a standard lincoln limousine. As a company, we are not going to ask the clients if they are overweight, most prom kids aren't (our assumption), and can easily fit 10 inside comfortably. If you thought this might have been a concern, the weight issue, you could have knocked the pax cap down to 8 prom kids. If one company told you this type of limousine did seat 8 comfortably, 10 being a tight fit, the limousines are almost the same (lincoln standard, keep in mind), and will not vary from one company to another. The only difference would be the styling inside the limousine, I'm referring to the lighting, bar display, etc., not the actual seating amount. When you were told the pax cap by the other companies, you should have taken that information and applied it/apply it to other companies that you called and questioned.
Nicole Paris An Occasion To Remember, Inc. |
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Limo Master Location: San Diego
Registered: May 02, 2008
Posts: 265
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Hawk, I feel for you. You had a special event that went bad and you're pretty angry about it. It sounds like you're gonna go the extra yard to get some closure on it and make Golden Star take responsibility for their actions. I would still like to hear GS limo's version of the story before I pass judgement, but I'm sure that will get solved in court. As far as your version goes I only disagree with your blame of traffic. 99% of the time the driver /company should be responsible for having the proper limo on time, clean, and ready for a job. But once in a while there is a reasonable excuse to be late like a legit flat tire(I said legit), bad accident(with a death, sometimes you'll be stuck for an hour), a riot(Lakers/Kings), etc... But don't get me wrong, I'm on your side on this so far because it doesn't look like GS wants to respond. I have known of some less than honorable companies that will keep their biiger vehicles on a nice job with overtime and send whatever they have with no care in the world for the client. But those companies don't last long and there really is a good chance that the bigger car that you were promised had some kind of mechanical problem and they had to do some serious magic just to get you a replacement so fast. Being a prom night, 80 minutes late to find you another limo sounds about normal. Thats my guess on what happened. Tough times don't last. Tough people do. |
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Newcomer Registered: June 11, 2008
Posts: 2
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I do not log on here frequently so forgive the late responses. In response to those who asked about the size of the limo, we had four plus size children, wearing puffy prom dresses, so limo capacity was a concern. We called about 6 places and they ALL told us their limos were more for 8-10 with 8 comforatbaly and 10 tight. THEY ALL told us TEN KIDS would be tight. GS LIMO told us thier limos were OVERSIZED and would fit 10 very conmfortably, even in big dresses, and when we went down to see the limo, it was perfect for us. Unfortunately this was not the limo that was sent the day of the prom. We never looked inside the limo to see if the kids were tight because, the limo driver was so late and I was busy arguing with him about payment while my wife was on the phone with the owner who told her she cannot control traffic. I am sorry, but if you are a limo company it is YOUR job to make sure YOUR Drivers are there on time or before - not 1 hour and 20 minutes late. As for not seeing the tightness - yes shame on us for not looking inside the limo, shame on the company for crapping on us. since the driver was so late we just wanted them to leave and not miss any more of their event. Had we seen how tight they were, we would have stopped him there and taken them ourselves, which we should have done in the first place.
As for the BBB - We have a complaint in with them. The owners response was full of lies and fabrications. They are a good story teller. I will not go into details here because we will be suing them in court, but their response was so fabricated and full of lies any fair judge or jury will see through it. I am not worried, We will have the proof we need when the court date arrives. TO GUNNY, I am not a frequent poster of these sites. I am a one time consumer of this particular service and I was taken for a ride by what I thought was a reputable company. yes SHAME on me for being stupid when we booked this place and allowing myself to pay cash. Yes shame on me for not putting every sigle detail in writing. and yes we didn't get a return notification in writing from them - so the facial evidence is against me - thats fine, bottom line is this company did totally wrong by us in several eways, and I will fight them tooth and nail on it. The money is gone, I am not looking so much for money back as I am for having this owner admit their negligence. They took no repsonsiblity for any of their actions or inactions. We know our sorry, We have our facts, We have our witnesses, and we have their vain attempt at a coverup. And I will post on them everwhere I Can to ensure other folks know the experience we had and don't get caught up in the same scenario. |
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Limo Protege Location: Hanover, PA
Registered: May 25, 2007
Posts: 150
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I did send private message to this upset customer, informed him/her that there are questions unanswered from a few companies on here. No response yet, I guess. lol gunny!
Nicole Paris An Occasion To Remember, Inc. |
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Limo Protege Location: Crown Point, Indiana
Registered: May 02, 2008
Posts: 102
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Why do parents allow the limo to leave with kids sitting on each other's lap? My kids are only 2 and 1, but when they are this age and this would happen, sorry no way they're leaving driveway like that. If this is true-shame on company, shame on parents.
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Shake Master![]() Location: LA,CA
Registered: May 31, 2001
Posts: 1429
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Well Gunny when ever I see a consumer complaint with enough info to identify the company I always send them off an email with a link to the discussion. So they can come on and defend themselves. Have not had many takers in the many years I have been here. Always good hearing both sides of it, educational for all! |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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This is a limousine industry forum & when someone comes aboard to take a shit on a member of the industry to leave & never be heard from again, at a minimum, they should post their name, date of service along with the complaint, ie., My name is Chicken Shit & I hired Golden Star Limousine of East Brunswick to provide prom service on d/m/y & this is what happened.......... This way, a month or 2 down the road when someone tells Golden Star that they spotted a negative post/review on LDC, Golden Star can come aboard & defend themselves. This poster may be 100% dead on or it can be a poser looking to do Golden Star harm as this isn't the only attack this person has made in the comfort of secrecy. And if this person doesn't want folks up in his/her business, this is the wrong place to drop dimes. Personally, I think this is where TOU needs to be enforced. "Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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Limo Protege Location: Hanover, PA
Registered: May 25, 2007
Posts: 150
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I am wondering about the kid who had to sit on anothers' lap? Was she told it was an 8 pax, or 10 pax? I know for a standard 10 pax, it is a little tight, but for prom kids, can usually sit them pretty well w/o the need to sit on someone elses' lap. I just had a goup of 10 adults sitting comfortably in a limo, I usually tell them 8 adults comfortably, 10 prom kids comfortably, unless some are a little bigger, but these adults FIT (suprising, huh?). Was she sent any type of confirmation from the limo company about the 1 hour p/u being earlier? Did she sign any type of contract that states how much she paid? (Hopefully she did!)
Nicole Paris An Occasion To Remember, Inc. |
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Limo Protege Registered: November 18, 2006
Posts: 76
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maybe the lady can send it to you private. she may not be wanting people all up in her busines and whatnot |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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Gunny made an excellent point. Please post your city and the name of the service. I would like to see the BBB Report also. The SLA ( Service Lepers Association) was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this post.
Dean Schuler |
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Limo God Location: Spring Hill Florida
Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 2742
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Just another brave one bashing a company in anonymity. Such anonymous postings always leaves a question of validity.
"Suing Tampa Limo Regulator In Federal Court For The Right To Use Fuel Efficient Vehicles & Violations Of Federal & State Preemptions. What Has Your National Or Local Assoc. Done For You Lately? " Visit www.thefita.com |
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SINCE 1976 Location: Metairie, Louisiana 70055
Registered: August 31, 2000
Posts: 3744
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I am hoping you did not shop by price-that always will get you in deep water. During prom season trolls have their nets out for guppies. Checking references and asking to see copies of their insurance and permitting authority are good moves. Find out who regulates limousine services in your jurisdiction and contact those folks immediately.
Dean Schuler |
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