The Limos.com Forum Has Moved!!!

CAUTION!!!!
Be careful using mygallons.com This website was just smeared on CNN today stating that customers are complaining that they CAN'T get the pre-paid card to work!!! Company's response: "were fixing the bug's and glitches"...hmmmm
We can see where this goes: Negative publicity today (CNN), will send stock holder's for this company selling, causing the value to drop, thus bankrupt in near future, you lose money, no gas saving's.

For those who are still wanting to use this company, do your homework first, check the value of the stock today(not sure what this company trades under), then check again early the next week, then compare to previous week's (this is info that is readily available online), if the value has lost at least 20% in a one week period, not a good investment.

Seriously dude - Karl summed it all up. About as useless as shoelaces on a brick! Did you see my previous post here about sending out a survey just to prove to the BBB sales rep they have nothing to offer.

Rather than to continue and highjack my own thread here, I will start a new one in the form of a poll so see what people think.

quote:

Originally posted by Limo Scene:
By the way, Limo Bob IS known throughout the industry. He IS the king by sel proclamation and jewels displayed at every show. His IS the bling, bling man. As far as being the #1 builder, this could be debated by what #1 means. #1 in production, meaning most cars sold? #1 in quality with the best cars built? #1 in what. In my opinion, the #1 builder is Krystal in popularity and units sold. #1 in quality would be DeBryan.

So now we understand - LimoPromoter has a beef with Bob.

he says everything

quote:

Originally posted by Limo Scene:
Even if you have a "failure to reply" on your record - it doesn't matter as no one is going to see it. NO ONE calls BBB anymore to check on companies. Our grandparents did that. I have as much respect for the opinion of the BBB as I do the kid selling lemonade on the corner.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
of course people look to the BBB for status

I do it everywhere i do business with even though its not a requirement to be registered with the BBB it still shows you whats up

I did question this lady at the BBB why would someone be unsatisfactory standing as in the case of limo bob if there was only 1 complaint?

Of course she couldnt answer that

But thanks to me, I helped limo bob close that issue

By the way, Limo Bob IS known throughout the industry. He IS the king by sel proclamation and jewels displayed at every show. His IS the bling, bling man. As far as being the #1 builder, this could be debated by what #1 means. #1 in production, meaning most cars sold? #1 in quality with the best cars built? #1 in what. In my opinion, the #1 builder is Krystal in popularity and units sold. #1 in quality would be DeBryan.

So now we understand - LimoPromoter has a beef with Bob.

Even if you have a "failure to reply" on your record - it doesn't matter as no one is going to see it. NO ONE calls BBB anymore to check on companies. Our grandparents did that. I have as much respect for the opinion of the BBB as I do the kid selling lemonade on the corner.

BBB is a good place to find out about a business (maybe). The important thing is try not to have a "failure to reply" on your business name listing.

Limopromoter what are you talking about?

quote:

Originally posted by Limo Scene:
Karl, thanks for this post. I should have clarified that I am not using it. I merely heard about it. It just sounds too fishy to me so I wanted to get some info from others before looking into this further.

As for Limopromoter......what in the world?

Are you writing first person as this happened to you? Are you reprinting correspondance regarding the situation but not using quotes to identify someone else?

Karl, I agree with you. People that pay money to be a member of the BBB are boneheads. "Back in the day" I think the BBB had clout.

I didn my own little "random survey" of 80 local people just to prove a point with a BBB salesperson. Of 80 surveyed, 56 responded and only two have called the BBB to get a reference on a business - none were members and none would consider becoming members. It was enjoyabll to print the responses out and deliver them to the BBB office.

Phil, it is not a limo order it is a consultation/training job. I now refer to this as Odessolette, Texas instead of Odessa, TX!

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks the BBB is a joke. I used to run an attorney service(process serving, stake outs, skip tracing, court filings,etc...) and had a crazy women call the BBB on me. She paid the Marshal $30 to try and serve a defendent a claim & order for small claims court. They couldn't find the defendent. She asked me if I could do it. I told her if the address was good and they were there I could probably serve it. I charged her $35(nothing for what I went through) and made 7 attempts(the marshal makes 3 attempts) at all different times. I told her that nobody was living there and that for a fee I could skip trace a new address. She yelled at me she wanted her $35 back because I didn't serve anyone. For $35 I probably should have just given it back, but out of principal I would have rather died. So the BBB calls me all friendly and asks if I'd like to be a member. I laugh and say no. They then tell me about the complaint and say I can't be a member unless I take care of the problem. I say the problem is she's crazy and I still don't want to be a member. With the internet these days, if someone wants to talk trash and dirty your name, they don't need the BBB to do it. The BBB is archaic and a waste of money.

quote:

Originally posted by Limo Scene:
Karl, thanks for this post. I should have clarified that I am not using it. I merely heard about it. It just sounds too fishy to me so I wanted to get some info from others before looking into this further.

As for Limopromoter......what in the world?

Are you writing first person as this happened to you? Are you reprinting correspondance regarding the situation but not using quotes to identify someone else?

Karl, I agree with you. People that pay money to be a member of the BBB are boneheads. "Back in the day" I think the BBB had clout.

I didn my own little "random survey" of 80 local people just to prove a point with a BBB salesperson. Of 80 surveyed, 56 responded and only two have called the BBB to get a reference on a business - none were members and none would consider becoming members. It was enjoyabll to print the responses out and deliver them to the BBB office.

Phil, it is not a limo order it is a consultation/training job. I now refer to this as Odessolette, Texas instead of Odessa, TX!

ok
Royalty West is not me
It is a company that has this building shaped as a castle that Limo bob used or rented for his sons birthday that was being filmed by MTV.
The company wanted more money from Limo Bob and he in a matter of speaking told them to kiss his ass.

So Royalty West posted on rip off report and BBB the issue and then I tried to get to the bottom of things and Bob gave me his part of the story, so I submitted it to the BBB in chicago and then at the end of our conversation the lady says that Royalty West never responded to the rebuttal, so she closed the case.

When you get emails from limo bob his signature has pics of him, and the 65 foot limo and some big house that he didnt say if it was his or not and the castle that belongs to Royalty West, which is copyright infringement.


My take is that Bob is doing this to make him look like a "king" as it looks good in back of a 65 foot limo that has burnt up interior that he said Ron Pauls people created after playing with the circuit board

The major complaint I have towards limo bob is that he cheated me out of my commission, which he told me anything i get him whether its a movie deal or book deal or sale of a limo that he will pay 10%.

He never metnioned paying 10% of the profit that he makes until the other day with the inventor and with my research I don't see anyone doing that.

GM even pays 5% to their salespeople and their cars aren't as "exotic" looking.

Another thing that I question is that he claims to be the #1 limo builder in the world.

By looking at all 3 of his videos it does not show any of his people building limos.
They show other companies doing the building and he's only the middleman.
They show him getting pissed at people and old 15 year old videos of him on these talk shows crying the blues..

This is what he told me when I questioned him on that:

we are the # 1 builder, I am the Limo Icon of the Limo world, and everyone in the limo biz knows me, what Elvis was to rock and roll, is what I am to limos.

Look Alan, you may do as you wish, if you wish to get serious about selling limos from the luxury of your own home, I have all the leads, and the limos I have over 100 for sale, and thousands more on ebay, Craig list and countless other places to locate them.

Now dadio, are you in or out?

Now lets look at EBAY:
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trks...itle=limo&category0=

868 items found
That doesnt look to me like thousands.

He also wanted to give away his Ferrari limo to a celeb and I gave him 3 openings and he said nothing.
ANYONE HEARD OF A $20,000 FERRARI TESTAROSSA?

They are kit cars, but he doesnt tell anyone that

Karl, thanks for this post. I should have clarified that I am not using it. I merely heard about it. It just sounds too fishy to me so I wanted to get some info from others before looking into this further.

As for Limopromoter......what in the world?

Are you writing first person as this happened to you? Are you reprinting correspondance regarding the situation but not using quotes to identify someone else?

Karl, I agree with you. People that pay money to be a member of the BBB are boneheads. "Back in the day" I think the BBB had clout.

I didn my own little "random survey" of 80 local people just to prove a point with a BBB salesperson. Of 80 surveyed, 56 responded and only two have called the BBB to get a reference on a business - none were members and none would consider becoming members. It was enjoyabll to print the responses out and deliver them to the BBB office.

Phil, it is not a limo order it is a consultation/training job. I now refer to this as Odessolette, Texas instead of Odessa, TX!

quote:

Originally posted by Limo Insurance King:
Thanks for posting that Karl, I couldn't find anything useful like that when I searched.

It's pretty cool that the BBB is doing something; I never have given the BBB much credit.

No problem at all, Phil. I also find it interesting that the BBB (an organization I've always thought was as about as useful as shoelaces on a brick) seems to have taken the point on this. If the BBB's allegations that "Other businesses that have made similar attempts at offering pre-paid gas purchases resulted in leaving their customers high and dry" carry any weight, I would rather expect the FTC to investigate also.

talking about the bbb Limo Bob had a little something negative there in chi town for awhile from the royalty west guy that had his sons 16th birthday at
That Bob wouldnt pay the whole tab
And Bob asked the BBB lady to ask the owners if they liked the limo ride

That complaint is not reportable, as it deals with the collection of money.
We are not a legal entity. We have always provided the company and the consumer equal time and opportunity to give their side of the story.

It is unresolved because services were never rendered to her. You insisted on receiving an apology and we cannot make anyone apologize to you. If you have, any questions or concerns please feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
Kimberly Mullen
Assistant Manager - Personal Services

I had 2 previous parties in the past that's right. I paid you at the end of the event and had no problem with it. this is the first time you charged me up front, and now I see why you did, you would have not gotten away with this if it were at the end of the night, I would have disputed it, and you know this.

Are you denying that I didn't tip your people? did you asked them? I am very generous to all I deal with, but if you try and rip me off, I wont allow this, and now you have been paid in full. I paid you for what we verbally agreed to, (You charged me for more people than was really there I paid you for and I still paid you for your over quote!) and I paid for way more than I asked for. Your valet didn't exist, and was suppose to be on you also. (Quoted to Sondra) and your bathroom people gangstered me for a 100.00 each more late in the night as well. (Quoted to Sondra as well) 15% of 7,000.00 is what I paid your people in cash and you then double dipped me on the bill. That is a desperate attempt to gangster your patrons.

My Version of the bill is FACT! Please don't tell me I pretend to be whatever! it is you kids and your spouses that all work for Mommy and Daddy and your all fighting over money (Because you all don't make enough charging people the right way) so you all are sneaky and that is why you never wanted a contract with me ROBERT STRAUSER ~ This was your way of charging me up front, muscling me up front to write out a check or like the beast said, this party will never start IF I DONT WRITE OUT THE CHECK NOW!!!! What else was I suppose to do? let you all ruin my sons party, I don't think so!

Now either deposit the check I gave you and learn how not to scam your customers, then have FAKE lawyers try and intimidate people later on the phone, and do the right thing in life and the Godly thing, and get your deals in writing so you don't have this problem later. You have been paid in FULL! Tipped in full! and be happy I even paid you after trying to pull off a stunt like doubling my bill from 8,000.00 with tips to 16,000.00 with my cash tips included, on top of you charging me for tips again on the bill. DID YOU REALLY THINK YOU WERE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS? I may have been born at night..... but not last night!

Sincerely,

Robert Strauser

donna Johnson got a free limo ride, we settled out of court, please contact her and ask her how happy she is.

as far as Kois people i rebuttled for that birthday party, and you should also have a copy of it.

I thank you and Alan.

quite comical too that Limo Bob has in his email signature the castle that is owned by Royalty West in back of his pickup limo

He had rented out the patriot limo to ron paul and his people burnt it up and bob tried to get 600 grand from them and decided not to charge them
but he still promotes

Thanks for posting that Karl, I couldn't find anything useful like that when I searched.

It's pretty cool that the BBB is doing something; I never have given the BBB much credit.

I'd say the premise is distantly similar to an airlines fuel hedging programs. Beyond that, I wouldn't give MyGallons.com that much credit for planning it that well.

MyGallons.com is out to make money on greed and panic from consumers who won't read the subscriber agreement and subject themselves to an annual fee of $39.95 (unless they opt for an "Auto-Renewal" scheme that "saves" them $10.00 a year on fuels that probably will cost them no less than if they shopped, and made some simple adjustments to the way they use their fuel.

In my opinion, a wiser consumer might might do better to simply find a credit card that offers cash back or a rebate on fuel purchases. If that card has no annual fees, they are ahead of the game.

Concerns raised over online gasoline seller MyGallons.com

Better Business Bureau: MyGallons.com 'Omitted Fact' From Advertising

BBB Says MyGallons.com "Omitted Fact" In Advertising, Has No Contract To Process Transactions

I saw this on the news last night. While it is the same premis as the airline, rail, and large fleet operators purchasing fuel on contract, the web-site nor any searches have shown any financial data in order to prove the strength of this company.

But, since the company just opened Monday, they already have 1000 participants. At $39.95/account this comes to $39,950. Lets say that they only add 1000 per month they would make close to $100,000 on the interest generated from the membership fees and they are only going to pay for what the lowest price per gallon is selling for in your area so you won't actually be saving what you think you should be unless you purchase your fuel from that station.

I think that they are banking on people buying small amounts of fuel at a time and using it over the course of maybe 2-3 weeks earning a little interest off of a lot of members fees and cash they are holding. I would also think that if someone went and purchased enough fuel to run a fleet of trucks/limousines for a month the membership would be ended.