The Limos.com Forum Has Moved!!!

For months, even longer, I have been notifying limos.com of revoked, denied and suspended operators here in LA and California. The most prominent has been Paramount Limousine and Sedan- Los Angeles,CA. I have been assured for the past weeks that they were no longer on limos.com. I did searches again today, 5/21/08 and despite receiving the email below as well as yet another from limos.com claiming they were not on limos.com PARAMOUNT AND OTHER ILLEGAL GYPSY OPERATORS CONTINUE TO APPEAR DOZENS OF TIMES ON THE RECOMMENDED LIST WHILE MINE AND OTHER LEGAL SERVICES HAVE BEEN CONSIGNED TO LIMBO. Why is this happening? Is it retaliation for making complaints, questioning the veracity and legality of this advertising website, maybe just a bad day at limos.com? I've seen a few people come and go there and its a different person each time I try to deal with them and get these issues answered. I don't understand the logic behind this "recommended providers" list that is in violation of limos.com's own legal agreement with me when I signed up. I don't understand the logic behind retaliation against any company that points out illegal operators when my leads increase their gross income as much as any other's. Is this simply an emotional reaction of folks in an office in Arizona who won't be told what to do by some nobody in LA or is it simply a matter of incompetence when it comes to fixing their computer's software? Why do companies who are proven illegal receive dozens of leads with the help of limos.com when a company who has been racking up positive reviews and providing top notch service to limos.com's own customers get screwed? Anybody have any answers to this... even smarmy, smartass comebacks from the peanut gallery are better then silence. I have a recorded phone call to Paramount that is unbelievable. They admit they are illegal and without TCP State licensing. I will attach it to another post shortly. For those who would attack me for recording a phone call, Paramount themselves have a recorded answering machine that proudly announces they record calls for "quality purposes" so put a sock in it guys. This isn't wiretapping. I leave that illegal activity to our wonderful government.
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Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:47:53 -0400
From: "Carlos Matos" <carlos.matos@limos.com> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: admin@luken-limousine.com
Subject: Re: Ilegal operators
I took him off our list last night, however you will not see him as of today.


On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Luken Limousine <admin@luken-limousine.com> wrote:

I just did several more searches and Parmount popped up over and over in the "recommended" 8. What the hell is going on? You said they were off the list yet there they are and appearing in that top of the list over and over and over, probably more than any other company.

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Originally posted by Luken Limousine:
Correct Nashville! The thing is LDC will do what LDC wants. So run around with your prissy mouth and cry, whine, bitch, moan & nothing will change. Its all about the dollar bill. Let me guess, you wear womens underwear too? But hey its america, free speech, free this free that, hell you are free to wear womens underwear if you want! PANSY!

The smiley, like the one's 12 year old girls love to use is a nice touch there Scotty. After doing a search for Nashville services on limos.com only 5 services show up... in total... as opposed to over 50 in LA. So much for competition or potential illegal gypsy operators there. I'm guessing you're from Courtesy Limousine Service since you hide your company name but show the nose of that hideous stretch Escalade. Scotty, your bold response shows your level of professionalism, maturity and IQ level. Well done. I couldn't have impeached you better myself. Apologies to Courtesy if they are indeed NOT associated with this knuckle dragger. With no real competition, no gypsy operators and offering $25 airport sedan service you must be rolling in the dough. How does this issue even affect you, Scotty? Somebody does a lead search for Nashville and they don't even get to see 8 "recommended providers", only 5 and I'll just bet those 5 are real top notch services as they have zero, 1 or 2 reviews at most and those are dicey if not several years old. This is what I meant by the peanut gallery keeping out of this issue. It doesn't even concern you beyond filling your hours and hours of dull existence spent trolling the chatrooms looking for pedophilia fodder.[/QUOTE]


In no way am I associated with courtesy limo, try your google search again, I own TWO of the 15 companies in the area. My avatar is not an escalade, it happens to be my Cadillac CTS-V..
I'm sorry you are over run with gypsy operators, we are too, but life goes on. I could careless about the companies that do $25.00 airport rides, BNA doesn't generate much revenue, Nashville is a party town, and filled with country music people, thats what I cater to. Keep running your mouth. One day you will learn you should just shut up sometimes and focus on your business. In the end the Gypsy will kill himself, and a new one will start. So if you keep ranting about it you will be able to right a book the size of war and peace in a year.

Correct Nashville! The thing is LDC will do what LDC wants. So run around with your prissy mouth and cry, whine, bitch, moan & nothing will change. Its all about the dollar bill. Let me guess, you wear womens underwear too? But hey its america, free speech, free this free that, hell you are free to wear womens underwear if you want! PANSY! [/QUOTE]

The smiley, like the one's 12 year old girls love to use is a nice touch there Scotty. After doing a search for Nashville services on limos.com only 5 services show up... in total... as opposed to over 50 in LA. So much for competition or potential illegal gypsy operators there. I'm guessing you're from Courtesy Limousine Service since you hide your company name but show the nose of that hideous stretch Escalade. Scotty, your bold response shows your level of professionalism, maturity and IQ level. Well done. I couldn't have impeached you better myself. Apologies to Courtesy if they are indeed NOT associated with this knuckle dragger. With no real competition, no gypsy operators and offering $25 airport sedan service you must be rolling in the dough. How does this issue even affect you, Scotty? Somebody does a lead search for Nashville and they don't even get to see 8 "recommended providers", only 5 and I'll just bet those 5 are real top notch services as they have zero, 1 or 2 reviews at most and those are dicey if not several years old. This is what I meant by the peanut gallery keeping out of this issue. It doesn't even concern you beyond filling your hours and hours of dull existence spent trolling the chatrooms looking for pedophilia fodder.

Luken,

I think your think you aim is RIGHT ON !!! I most certainly do give a shit when gypsies are operating in my back yard. You have every right to scream & shout. A good 75% of the content on this fourm is rants an raves. How many post has Gunny put up here that is nothing but opionated bull shit and has nothing to do with us in CA. Hey thats his right and more power to him. I chose not to read those kind of blogs. But certainly do not listen to some backwards ass, redneck hillbilly in Tenn. who wants you to supress your freedom of speech.

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Originally posted by Luken Limousine:

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Originally posted by J.Scott:
Luken,

Everyone knows about this issue, some of us have gotten emails. Blah Blah Blah! WHO CARES? Hang it up man! It is what it is. Go read Who Moved my Cheese Who Moved My Cheese

Honestly we don't want to hear anymore gripes on LDC. We are here to better each other, not rant on and rant off for months on end.

Thanks!

Welcome to the Brave New World Order. This kind of response is exactly what's expected from Americans these days. So we murdered a million Iraqis, who cares? MOVE ON. So we're paying billions to the oil companies to make us bend over a little further, who cares? MOVE ON. So somebody upsets us on our little forum here... WHAT???? HOW DARE THEY!!! BAN THEM! WATERBOARD THEM! DON'T UPSET MY TWISTED, LITTLE FALSE NOTIONS OF SECURITY AND SAFETY. I AM TOO BUSY WATCHING FOOTBALL, WRESTLING AND AMERIKAN IDOL. Nashville... home of this kind of guy. If its illegal, who cares as long as I'm not affected. Wait for the next "terrorist" attack. When martial law is invoked this forum and every other venue for FREE SPEECH will disappear along with your smug attitude.

Correct Nashville! The thing is LDC will do what LDC wants. So run around with your prissy mouth and cry, whine, bitch, moan & nothing will change. Its all about the dollar bill. Let me guess, you wear womens underwear too? But hey its america, free speech, free this free that, hell you are free to wear womens underwear if you want! PANSY!

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Originally posted by J.Scott:
Luken,

Everyone knows about this issue, some of us have gotten emails. Blah Blah Blah! WHO CARES? Hang it up man! It is what it is. Go read Who Moved my Cheese Who Moved My Cheese

Honestly we don't want to hear anymore gripes on LDC. We are here to better each other, not rant on and rant off for months on end.

Thanks!

Welcome to the Brave New World Order. This kind of response is exactly what's expected from Americans these days. So we murdered a million Iraqis, who cares? MOVE ON. So we're paying billions to the oil companies to make us bend over a little further, who cares? MOVE ON. So somebody upsets us on our little forum here... WHAT???? HOW DARE THEY!!! BAN THEM! WATERBOARD THEM! DON'T UPSET MY TWISTED, LITTLE FALSE NOTIONS OF SECURITY AND SAFETY. I AM TOO BUSY WATCHING FOOTBALL, WRESTLING AND AMERIKAN IDOL. Nashville... home of this kind of guy. If its illegal, who cares as long as I'm not affected. Wait for the next "terrorist" attack. When martial law is invoked this forum and every other venue for FREE SPEECH will disappear along with your smug attitude.

Luken,

Everyone knows about this issue, some of us have gotten emails. Blah Blah Blah! WHO CARES? Hang it up man! It is what it is. Go read Who Moved my Cheese Who Moved My Cheese

Honestly we don't want to hear anymore gripes on LDC. We are here to better each other, not rant on and rant off for months on end.

Thanks!

This was posted by another company some time ago but its still valid... something is amiss at limos.com. By the way, only after posting this thread and contacting the PUC with the phone recording did limos.com apparently remove Paramount and start showing my service in the "recommended" list. I for one DON'T WANT TO BE RECOMMENDED IN VIOLATION OF OUR AGREEMENT. POST ALL THE COMPANIES WHO PAY FOR YOUR LEADS.
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Posted April 24, 2008 12:12 PM "13. Disclaimer
Limos.com, LLC DOES NOT RECOMMEND ANY SPECIFIC LIMOUSINE COMPANY AND DOES NOT PROVIDE ADVICE ON WHICH LIMOUSINE COMPANY TO SELECT. Limos.com, LLC DOES NOT SELL, SOLICIT APPLICATIONS FOR, OR WRITE CONTRACTS FOR ANY SERVICES. Limos.com, LLC IS NOT A BROKER ACTING ON BEHALF OF ANY BUYER AND IS NOT AN AGENT ACTING ON BEHALF OF ANY LIMOUSINE COMPANY. "

This is from Limos.com terms of service legal page.
"Limos.com, LLC DOES NOT RECOMMEND ANY SPECIFIC LIMOUSINE COMPANY AND DOES NOT PROVIDE ADVICE ON WHICH LIMOUSINE COMPANY TO SELECT. "

Well it would seem that they are recommending 8 services, in their new format.

Now I know for sure this supposedly random lead search is anything but random. Its a matter of a person typing in a name or code or other entry into their software and viola! Everything changes.
I just now did another several searches and lo and behold, Paramount doesn't appear when they were popping up in nearly every single search. Guess what else kids? My service is suddenly appearing numerous times in searches but I expect that to return to nearly nothing when you folks stop doing any test searches to throw in my face to prove I'm not being targeted. This is bogus and when I stated something stinks in Denmark and it ain't fish before I was right. Anyone else having the same problems with their name not appearing in the "recommended" list. A few of you responded before that yes that is indeed the case. If this is a software problem solve it by returning the lead search page to show EVERY OPERATOR WHO PAYS FOR THEIR LEADS. I did better when over 50 companies in the LA area appeared on potential clients lead searches than this discriminatory "recommended" list of 8 or less. I notice it doesn't always pop 8 either, sometimes as few as 5 companies are "recommended". Another glitch in the software or deliberate? You decide.