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I am setting up my Limo service and rates and I just bought my 1st vehicle. A 100" Krystal. I know I can sell it as a 6 pack. My question is - can I sell this as an 8 pack? It seems like 8 is going to be tight back there unless I am carrying around the Olson Twins and thier friends. Reccomendations? If not 8 - can I say 7? (The doorframe says "no more than 7 passengers")

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Both of my 8 Pass do not have the passenger seats so we can haul extra luagage

Yes Jess same with ours. Thats the first thing we do when we get them from krystal is take out that big glove compartment/hump/space filler thingy so we can have more luggage room.

But if Wolfe has a front seat good to leave that in there as sometimes in this town people request a Limo with a front passenger seat so thier security can ride shotgun with the driver. Rare but it happens.

I was joking about sitting upfront.

Both of my 8 Pass do not have the passenger seats so we can haul extra luagage

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Originally posted by Steve W.:

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If you have a seat upfront, maybe you can sell it as an eight pass limo.

That will fly in a sedan but once you get into the separate passenger compartment that is in a stretch limo people want to be together and do not want to exclude a member of their party to the isolation area. Do that at your own risk, customer dissatisfaction may be in your future.

I mean if you realy want to take it to the extream you can get three across on the front bench in a Town car realisticly, belt there also!

Believe me folks - I dont need any more convincing. No ONE is sitting up front with the driver and I will only sell it as a 7 passenger. I will turn down 8 people back there. I just wanted to get a few opinions about the possibility of 8. But you are right - Im not doing the sardine thing in my vehicle. So if I get a call for 8 I am turning down the booking. Thanks for all your replies everyone!

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If you have a seat upfront, maybe you can sell it as an eight pass limo.

That will fly in a sedan but once you get into the separate passenger compartment that is in a stretch limo people want to be together and do not want to exclude a member of their party to the isolation area. Do that at your own risk, customer dissatisfaction may be in your future.

I mean if you realy want to take it to the extream you can get three across on the front bench in a Town car realisticly, belt there also!

If you have a seat upfront, maybe you can sell it as an eight pass limo.

We sell the sedans as 4 Pass and naturally expect someone to sit upfront.

You will be getting man requests and trust me you cannot make everyone happy.

I just got two calls today for a 45 and 52 pass bus. I am atleast fours years away from getting a big bus. I have only one 23 Pass bus, so I have to turn the business away.

Unfortunately it seems this is all to common in alot of areas. Folks attempting to maximize their seating capacity against the rated seating Capacity.

Even the Icon 120 is Only rated for 7 Customer seating Capacity Yet many will push that to 8.

It is not a new problem for companies.

any time you exceed your rated limitations from the Manufacture your Liability Risk Jumps a hundred fold should something go wrong during the reservation and you place yourself and your company at risk.

Before I went into business for myself almost 4 years ago now I was a Chauffeur. At times I was very embarrassed that 8 folks had to cram into a 100 inch stretch rated for 6 or that 10 were forced to sit on each others lap in the 120 inch stretch rated for 7.

When I became an Operator myself I vowed to never allow such to happen. It is dangerous, it is crazy to jeopardize yourself and your company in such a way.

Buy a 140 step the clients up they will be much happier and likely repeat customers for your effort.

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Originally posted by J.Scott:
Pretty much just shot yourself in the foot, thats a hard car to get started with. Shoulda gone with a 120

I hope not - I hope I can get it booked. It can definitly sell for 7 passengers. I dont know if 1 more passenger would make a huge difference - Unless there are 4 couples who want to go out - then I'd be screwed.

Well said. Back in the Day we identified the casual labor component of the industry thusly : If you have to sell via bar or seating capacity you might be a _______. If you ghost at the airports or hustle the playgrounds for prom business you might be a _____. This is a service business. Your chauffeur needs to be a mobile concierge fulfilling the needs of your clients.

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Originally posted by Salicete:
Cars should never be loaded above the capacity for which they were designed and built.

To do so endangers not only your clients, but also the well-being of your company.

If there were an accident, your insurance carrier may well have issues with the fact you were overloaded, and the civil courts definitely would.

Add to that the fact that it is hard to provide "luxury" ground transportation to clients crammed in like sardines, and it is a no-go.

Make your next car a 120 or larger if you want a higher passenger capacity.

We have a 100" Krystal and a 120" ICON, both are rated for 8 passengers (plus the driver) because of weight NOT length. The passengers in the 120" have more room overall, but we are still limited to eight passengers in either car. I prefer the three seat design because there is more leg room and less temptation to just slide one more in. When booking the cars we always tell clients that six is comfortable and eight is cozy. We do not recommend eight passengers with a wedding dress either. Clients are often asking to cram more folks into the car, but we stand firm at eight max.

Pretty much just shot yourself in the foot, thats a hard car to get started with. Shoulda gone with a 120

I have two identical 100" by krystal And they both have eight seat belts in the rear. Mine is a 3 seat design.

Michael,

Don't forget that weddings tend to bring out the big dresses. I've seen wedding dresses that take up three seats!

Just something to keep in mind!

Cool - thanks for your responses! Then I will call it a 6 or 7 passenger!

Most of the time you'll want to go with the number of seat belts in the rear, 7 belts would be a 7 passenger. Most companies will add the driver as another, so 7 belts in the rear plus driver would be an 8 passenger. If you have a passenger seat, then it's "classified" as a 9 passenger.

Cars should never be loaded above the capacity for which they were designed and built.

To do so endangers not only your clients, but also the well-being of your company.

If there were an accident, your insurance carrier may well have issues with the fact you were overloaded, and the civil courts definitely would.

Add to that the fact that it is hard to provide "luxury" ground transportation to clients crammed in like sardines, and it is a no-go.

Make your next car a 120 or larger if you want a higher passenger capacity.