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I ordered my livery plates from AAA of southern california and when I went back to pick them up they told me I have to take my car to a weighmaster to get a valid weight certificate and that I also need a california ownership certificate or application for duplicate from my lienholder. All I'm doing is switching my regular plates to personal livery. They also want me to switch my registration to read type auto to comerical, and my car is a cadillac 4 door sedan. If anyone could help if this is what the DMV really wants please let me know thank you

Gunny, you are right! I hate them all also! Democrats more because their favorite word is TAX! Yes they all suck,........money and do nothing.

Grenpala, yes, you are right! that's California! That one of many reasons I left. Oh, did I say Democrat State..........gee

I heard that some of the CA coachbuilders created some inner circle with CA DMV that if you are not one of the inner circle - as a coachbuilder you can not sell your cars or register cars built by you anywhere in CA. How bad is that for smaller coachbuilders. That pretty much puts them out of business. That is a bold move by CA DMV.

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Originally posted by D. Hartson:
Thumbs down on stupid state regulation! I too feel your pain! California, Nevada, and other states really screw the small guy trying to make a damn living and to pay for these cars. Dumb Democrats create this shit! Less Government! Less regulation! Fines do NOT solve problems!

I wouldn't just place it on the Demoasses. Plenty of Big Hair-Do, Christian Conservative Repukes putting the same regulatory shit on businesses.

I've said it before & will say it again. There are no politicians coming up with ways to screw the transportation industry while taking their morning shit.

Our mission must be to find & expose those feeding the regulatory machine & destroy them and/or the organization they cloak themselves under.

Thumbs down on stupid state regulation! I too feel your pain! California, Nevada, and other states really screw the small guy trying to make a damn living and to pay for these cars. Dumb Democrats create this shit! Less Government! Less regulation! Fines do NOT solve problems!

Eg. the goverment is thinking of adding additional $.50 a gallon fuel tax thinking that this would reduce people from driving their cars to reduce emmissions. Do you think this will work? Hell no!

Well, NYC will not give you plates unless the car is QVM. So if you have a car built by non QVM builder, you have to move to another county to get plates with no problem.

Also, dont you have when you have to buy a $600 TLC sticker just to enter each county in your State. Multiply $600 * size of your fleet. What a money maker for the counties. Worst thing is when each county is learning from other county and starts doing the same.

On top of that. LET ME TELL YOU A GOOD STORY:
This year one of the limo company (company A) with about 80 stretch limos hooked up with the Customer Affairs/TLC of one of the counties (Nassau County). For the Prom season they came to agreement that when the TLC catches a car with no county sticker - they tow it. Then they tell the limo company that they can not leave the prom kids with no limo. They MUST take the company that TLC regulates (company A). Best part of the story is that Company A charges the towed limo company $3000-$4000 for the job (no matter if its a lincoln job or a bus job. If that company will not pay COMPANY A for the job after its done - TLC will not even try to give you back the car.

This way Customer affair makes a $2000 commission on each towed limo + price of the ticket ($700-$1000) + towing charges + storage.

How F*** is that?? You have no idea what a SCAM by State officials (Nassau County Customer Affairs). Its a scandal.

Looks like somone's family member (company A) works for customer affair's office or someone from company A sleeps with someone from customer Affairs office.

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Originally posted by Digger:
Ohio just required me to show proof of commercial insurance. I had all of my business paperwork with me but they didn't want to see it.

Isn't life grand when there are no Industry Morons gumming up the works!

Ohio just required me to show proof of commercial insurance. I had all of my business paperwork with me but they didn't want to see it.

I can't tell you who the true idot that was behind this Livery Plate thing on this fourm. I sure would like to! California is a mess! So what else is new?

And I though Westchester NY is strict. You have to go through all that just to get livery plates?? Wow. That sucks.

Are you talking about Dan Wong?

The ass that runs SFO came from Seattle Airport SEA.

He messed things up here for everyone.

Don't they check employment history?

Easy on the melt down........I too feel your pain! SFO, HA a joke! As you know SFO has too many idots working in the ground transportation department. Although they didn't challenge you about the "Taxi" class, they did me. I know the guys in LA are having problems with LAX with this.

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Originally posted by D. Hartson:
No Advantage of having LM vs. Taxi, but some airports will not permit vehicles in California if the title is Taxi. LM for the Livery industry is the correct listing. Many DMV idiots are to lazy to look up the correct category. I remember this being an issue at SFO. It might not be any more but LAX is looking at this. Additional harassment from airports. That’s all.

We got out of the airport business because of the hassle at SFO!!! We did everything by the books (don't get me started), and my wife got cited by the airport police for having a clear plastic cover over the rear license plate (I have them on all my cars - tag theft is prevelant here).

Our registrations were not a problem as "taxi".

No Advantage of having LM vs. Taxi, but some airports will not permit vehicles in California if the title is Taxi. LM for the Livery industry is the correct listing. Many DMV idiots are to lazy to look up the correct category. I remember this being an issue at SFO. It might not be any more but LAX is looking at this. Additional harassment from airports. That’s all.

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Originally posted by D. Hartson:
Second, you will need to get the title from the bank and the type will be changed to "LM" not taxi.

Help me understand the "LM" thing? Both of my limos (here in CA) are "Taxi". I understood this to be the norm. What is "LM" and what is the advantage?

Thanx in advance,

Yes, I know it is off-topic, but the more I read, especially from you guys in California, NY and Pennsylvania, I REALLY appreciate the PSC authorities in Maryland.

Prove insurance, safety inspection, ownership and business license and you are done, Carrier # issued in a couple of weeks. The commercial bus, taxi, limo tags, etc are handed out at MVA based on one simple piece of paper issued by the PSC. (Oh, ya, and a big check too.)

Even the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATC) for DC-MD-VA Commercial Zone operations is easy, if not a little expensive, to deal with.

You guys have my sympathy, but please don’t move your operations here; there are enough shops to compete with already.

Well, as a California Operator at one time, I remember what was required. First, using AAA to do this might not be right because they are not use to this type of request. You will need the following. A letter from the PUC adding the vehicle onto the list of vehicles you will be operating. Make sure the type of vehicle you are buying for this will be approved by the airports before purchasing it. Eg. some airports will not allow the Mercury Marquis to be used as a Limousine. Check it out.

Second, you will need to get the title from the bank and the type will be changed to "LM" not taxi. Some banks will not like this. Also, the name on the title, if it is different than your company name, this might be a problem with the airports. Check it out. Eg. your name vs. your company name might be a problem.

Third, All commercial vehicles must have a weight certificate. You can get this at the local truck stop. If I remember correctly, if a vehicle is under 5,000 lbs. you have the lowest rate of tax. If the vehicle is over 5,000 Lbs. the tax rate goes up. If it is close and you need to get under 5,000 Lbs, remove the spare tire, back seat etc, to save money. Its been done before. I would recommend that you go to the DMV to do this. My thoughts. Good Luck