The Limos.com Forum Has Moved!!!

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Originally posted by Sara McLean:
Yours was the very FIRST renewal check received into the Bobit HQ for the NLA 2002?

Come on Jim...all this play for attention when it's quite obvious you really CARE about the NLA since that seems to be the primary focus of your thought process. Really... The organziation should be flattered by your obsession of them--I know I am!

Anyway you seemed to have skated right around the volunteer issue so I'll be more blunt. We plan to call you this week to request your assistance. On office matters and running the NLA I am so glad you brought that up! The phones are going NUTS and Tom, Susan and Renee could use an able body with your intellect to help them out in Marlton!

Let's discuss this in detail...

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Be inclusive, not exclusive, follow the by-laws, offer the services that the founders set the N.L.A. up for, PROVIDE ACCURATE STATISTICS AND NUMBERS, and no more protecting crooks like the original livery coach ( The current owner is legit, and has a very good program, I would recomment him to any serious operator. I will write Mr. Dennis B. Adams a letter of reference anytime. He represents what is good about our trade and his software is not that of the original livery coach. )And last but not least, if there wasn't a need for two magazines, there would not be a LIMOUSINE DIGEST. Every operator should look at joining the T.P.L.A., in addition to the N.L.A. . We have to band together for our industry to survive and prosper. BE INCLUSIVE!!!!!!!! GO TO ALL SHOWS!!! Ty and Sara and Tommy have a nice one coming up in Vegas. Go to the SHOW and learn...

Dean Schuler

Yours was the very FIRST renewal check received into the Bobit HQ for the NLA 2002?

Come on Jim...all this play for attention when it's quite obvious you really CARE about the NLA since that seems to be the primary focus of your thought process. Really... The organziation should be flattered by your obsession of them--I know I am!

Anyway you seemed to have skated right around the volunteer issue so I'll be more blunt. We plan to call you this week to request your assistance. On office matters and running the NLA I am so glad you brought that up! The phones are going NUTS and Tom, Susan and Renee could use an able body with your intellect to help them out in Marlton!

Let's discuss this in detail...

Sara, from what I've seen, it would be best if I volunteer to manage NLA and you volunteer to "work" the doors.

James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

doesn't like the by-laws. First she said that when Bobit took over, the by-laws would be followed to a "t" (or words to that effect). Now we're saying we've been too busy to state the purpose of the meeting in the notice. Apaprently, they don't know what meeting "purposes" are since we're now hearing the truism, this is an "annual meeting." Telling us what the meeting "is" isn't telling us the purpose. The "agenda", which is a layman's term and used at non-corporate gatherings, to the extent that it states what business is going to be transacted, is required to be in the notice of the meeting, unless, of course, no one knows what the purpose is yet.
And, by the way, Sara, I don't regard NLA as being my village any more that Afghans regarded the Taliban as "their" government. NLA was hijacked years ago and is still a rogue organization. There is nothing admirable about the way NLA is run that makes one want to claim it as their own (unless you're one of the few who, in fact, "own" it). Perhaps I'll feel differently when it is operated in accordance with the by-laws and applicable law and not at the whim of and to serve the interests of a few members.

James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

Since the "letter" to the membership regarding its annual meeting is being attacked, let me remind you of what I stated earlier:

"The "save the date" notice of the meeting which will confirm the date, time, place and state the meeting purpose will be mailed to active members on February 12th. The final meeting agenda will be sent out on March 5."

Reminder that Bobit was deemed the management group on Friday, Feb. 1. The "big shipment" of all NLA property--130 boxes-- arrived from KY to the new NLA offices the following week. We hired a staff of three in that short period of time, installed phones, faxes, computers and are currently reprinting and revamping the NLA's published material. The show is 4 weeks away and the NLA is ROLLING. Things are off to a hectic albeit great start.

So while your assn. is in complete rebuild mode, how about JHJ and any other critics cutting us a little slack here. The letter was completely appropriate and its purpose is very obvious--its an annual membership general meeting, so it stands to reason that the members will be brought up to speed with what the NLA expects to accomplish into 2002 and 2003 (show to show).
We promised the notice of the GM would go out on the 12th and it did. I also stated an agenda would follow on March 5th, which it will. There will more details forthcoming but we are still ironing out the complete agenda.

Jim, we're short volunteers so how about calling Tom and putting your energies to some good use and help man the NLA booth or work the doors at the membership meeting?

Anyway, I said it before, I'll say it again. Be "careful." When you set out to burn down your own village, you only hurt yourself.

that the notice of the annual meeting didn't state any purpose because there is no purpose!!!! What's wrong with me - I should have known better.

James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

Nick and others expressed optimism that the Bobit people would be a major change in the NLA affairs, and I think it was Sara that said by-laws would be followed and told me to "be careful" because the notice of annual meeting of members would be sent out in a timely fashion, but it looks like it's Bobit that should "be careful" because they've already f**ked up the first official thing they've tried to do.
Got the putative "notice" of the annual meeting - apparently they can read a calendar, but they can't read the by-laws. Article 5, Section B of the NLA By-laws says: "Notice of the date, time, place and purpose of any meeting of the members of the NLA shall be given in writing by personal delivery or by United States mail, addressed to each member of the NLA at the address on file with the Secretary not less than thirty to forty-five (30-45) days prior to the date fixed for such meeting." The "notice" doesn't say a word about what the "purpose" of the meeting is. Guess their atention span was too short to get to the word "purpose" in the applicable section. If the by-laws ever get modified, we need to require that no sentence by longer than five words since so far no one at NLA (or Bobit) can grasp a sentence any longer (and maybe not that long).
Wait until the meeting when they go to determine whether a quorum is present!!! Ho, ho, ho!!! How are they going to count the people there? Most companies will have two or more people present. Who gets counted? Who counts? Who votes? (Silly me, thinking that there may be something going on that requires a vote). I predict this is going to be a "Hey Rube" and you'll never read about it in LCT, so keep watching here to stay up to date on this new comedy act. Oh well, we've needed a follow-up to the Three Stooges for many years.
I was seriously considering passing on this show since nothing important goes on anyhow, but it looks like I need to be there for this whole NLA thing to get a good laugh.

James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

know about some things. Actually, Carey publishes a newsletter of similar format called the LimoScene, as does NLA. I, of course, was referring to the piece of crap that NLA promulgates.

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Originally posted by Limo Scene:
For a minute Jim, at first glance, while talking on the phone, I thought you were puking all over me. I wasn't sure what I did to deserve being thrown in the toilet. Then I realized, the NLA must have a magazine or something called Limo Scene. I wouldn't know as I have never wasted my money for an association that doesn't seem to offer much for me. But then again, you guys get a magazine with my business name for the price of your membership (woo hoo!). Just for the record though, my screen name is short for our company's real name, The Limousine Scene and should never be associated with you know who.

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James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

For a minute Jim, at first glance, while talking on the phone, I thought you were puking all over me. I wasn't sure what I did to deserve being thrown in the toilet. Then I realized, the NLA must have a magazine or something called Limo Scene. I wouldn't know as I have never wasted my money for an association that doesn't seem to offer much for me. But then again, you guys get a magazine with my business name for the price of your membership (woo hoo!). Just for the record though, my screen name is short for our company's real name, The Limousine Scene and should never be associated with you know who.

I was in West Virginia for a meeting yesterday all day, got back late and had dinner waiting. Looked through my mail and spotted the LimoScene, grabbed it and sat down to eat. Figured I'd have a minute to read the LimoScene (certainly doesn't take any longer to read, and that's if you read the ads). Big mistake! Opened the LimoScene, read Barbara Pastelak's column on what great things the NLA did this past year, started to read the drivel on the candidates - then puked all over the LimoScene, threw it in the toilet. The water won't destroy this expensive glossy paper (trying to make up in paper quality what the rag lacks in content), so if it survives the gastic juice attack I'll dry it out and read it again on an empty stomach (on an empty stomach the appropriate response is hysterical laughter), THEN I'll have something to say about it (and NLA elections) here. Later.

James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

Does this surprise you? The nincompoops that pass as the NLA administrative staff could screw up an anvil. Sometimes they're even more diabolical - like sending out screwed up ballots and envelopes as well as lists of candidates that just make them look like morons. Nobody knows how they count these ballots, anyhow, and since none of the by-laws are followed this whole thing is just a bunch of kids playing "corporation."

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Originally posted by nkokas:
I received my limo scene from the NLA today and I noticed that not all of the runners are listed. Comments anyone?

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James H. Joseph
Pegasus Chauffeured Motor Cars
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
jhj@pegasus-pittsburgh.com

I have not receive my limoscen. Mail coming to Oregon is sent by Mule Pack. Please list the individual you think are missing? I will check it out.

John Sinibaldi
NLA Board Member

I received my limo scene from the NLA today and I noticed that not all of the runners are listed. Comments anyone?

Yes Nick Joe is going to run, I myself felt very leary about that because of the untusting souls on the present board. Joes biggest asset is that there is no such thing as a gag order to him, he will let the people know whats going on thats why so many on the board are against. THATS why we are for him, the membership wants to know. As far as Jeff Greene I would want him to get on this forum and tell the people what his policy would be about keeping quiet, other promises are just hopes. Another important thing is who are your affiliates, see Nick some of the problems arise because guys won't make waves if they think one of their main feeds will cut them off. John S. don't usually hold nothing back as proven on these forums, right or wrong he comes on.

Yes Joe is running. We need him. Jeff Greene would also be good for the Board. Please consider voting for Joe & Jeff.

John Sinibaldi
NLA Board Member
Vendor Liaison

I remember the name now Jeff Greene.

Guy, Is Joe currently running for the board? I received an e-mail today through the NLA that someone (who I can't remember for the life of me) is running for an open position on the board. Did you get this e-mail? Just curious as to whats going on with that.

Gee this forum is scary quiet? First to the Big P, Joe needs to run to move out some undeserving.
Next just to let everyone know that the deal has been reversed and LCT will now be the NLA management company!!!
This is just a step with the NLA survival, good luck to Sara and Da Man Tommy Mazza. Now is the time to rally the troops to make the election go in the right direction and clean up the board.

Guy I depreciate the answer about Joe still cant see it though, that bunch is to untrusting.
I have a question for Scott, I know we keep hearing it takes time but would you be willing to let us know who you feel are your allys.
I am not yet a member of the TLPA and the boys have been hounding me (I'm joing this month)but I have a question, it seems they do not have a managment company and everything everybody tells me is they are very succesful and smooth running.
So why does the NLA really need a mgmt company?

Has anybody thought about a merger between the NLA & TLPA?

First to Nick, I know you have talked to Joe and I hope you understand our objective. We are not looking to crucify anyone in particular (Jim don't answer that) we just do not like the closed door attitude of certain board members. Your comments about your association are no different then the rest of our associations (excluding the Jersey assoc. everything revolves around them)and that is, what benefit is there to being a member.
Our association voted to not renew because the $350.00 just isn't worth it anymore. The rest of the FSGTO associaions will follow suit. What Scott says about being patient has become increasingly difficult to sell to an association. The turmoil has caused many members to join the TLPA at least there isn't any interior fighting.
Not enough of the board changed for Scott to be succesful with his changes yet. If Joe is elected Scott will have an Ally, but somebody that will also watch him.
For Big Pussy P. Joe has been dragged over the coals to keep him off the board but he is like that dam rabit and keeps coming back. If some the board thinks they are in a turmoil now wait till Joes get in.
I gotta go, Scott I will be back if you have any comments before I then let them rip.