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Hey guys, I want to put together a calendar for my clients for the up-coming year.

Obviously there are only going to be 12 spots needed to fill, but I wanted to see if any of you would like to take a picture of your favorite limo in a nice area of your town (or maybe even your fleet) with the possibility of having it be used for one of the 12 months.

You won't get any pay out of it and you would have to give us the right to use the picture in the calendar (calendar only) but you and your company will be given credit for the picture in that respective month and of course you would get a calendar.

The picture would have to be of good quality (maybe 6mp camera & up) and be in electronic format.

Let me know if you would like to (especially you guys located in any costal states).

Thank you,

Phil

KC.... Did you look at the price of a Porsche cayenne and Audi Q7. They are pretty much about the same price range (maybe $1000 difference). So dont compare apples and oranges. Learn your fruits or differences in price range of vehicles. I will keep you up to speed: Chrysler jeep $30K car - GL500 $55K car. GL does not share the same platform as a chrysler. Its a different chassis, different suspension. Please be more technical next time you start comparing. Thank you.

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Originally posted by Greenpala:
KC - about an Audi. We do not have either one of these cars yet. Right now we are testing a market to see if there is more calls for a Porsche or an Audi. Problem is that people do not know the AUDI name yet. We are making a name for this car by building this car. But in the meantime we are experimenting. Let me tell you, when I present AUDI to people from the Bronx or Brooklyn - they go like: What is that? Is that a car? I Never heard of AUDI. They know PORSCHE because they have seen porsche limos. Nobody seen an AUDI limo, especially if the Q7 is the first SUV they ever built. I actually see more Audi Q7s on the road of NY than Porsche Cayennes. Both of these cars are originally made by the same company. Audi seems to be bigger and have a 3rd row seat.

So are you willing to buy my New Mercedes G-Class that I'm selling…it's a beautiful vehicle, less than a year old. Well actually, for full disclosure, it’s really a Jeep Unlimited, but I tweaked the front & back and added the Mercedes logo to it. You really can't tell the difference – it's the same vehicle, 'cause both are "technically" made be the same company – Daimler-Chrysler. So, I’m selling it as a Mercedes to make more money. (Let me apologize upfront for being a smart ass, note the sarcasm) – I'm I the only one that is troubled by this?

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Originally posted by KC:
By no means did I want to offend you by the statements that I made. But why advertise a vehicle you clearly have by a different make, model, and year. You could easily market the vehicle as a "1939 Excalibur inspired Limousine by Lincoln", and I would not question you.
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Good suggestion, however Excalibur didn't exist in 1939. That Town Car kit also doesn't replicate the looks of cars from 1939. It's probably inspired by the design cues prominent in some of the late 20s, and early to mid '30s cars like Mercedes SSK roadsters, Duesenbergs, Lincolns, etc. Excalibur didn't come into existence until the 60's and got its lines from the Mercedes.

To tweak your suggestion, New York Limousine could claim something like "Duesenberg-inspired neoclassic limousine." It sounds fancy AND it's more in line with the truth.

I appreciate all the comments from everybody. I will take it under consideration and probably ad a line in a description about the car. Thank you.

KC - about an Audi. We do not have either one of these cars yet. Right now we are testing a market to see if there is more calls for a Porsche or an Audi. Problem is that people do not know the AUDI name yet. We are making a name for this car by building this car. But in the meantime we are experimenting. Let me tell you, when I present AUDI to people from the Bronx or Brooklyn - they go like: What is that? Is that a car? I Never heard of AUDI. They know PORSCHE because they have seen porsche limos. Nobody seen an AUDI limo, especially if the Q7 is the first SUV they ever built. I actually see more Audi Q7s on the road of NY than Porsche Cayennes. Both of these cars are originally made by the same company. Audi seems to be bigger and have a 3rd row seat.

Until we get an actual car (within next 2 weeks) we will not know for sure how we are going to sell it. Until people get used to the name AUDI as a limo - we will have to push the as a Porsche to some clients.

I know at least 5 limousine companies that have a Suburban SUV stretched with a nose and tale of an Escalade and they sell it as Escalade. People dont know that its a suburban.

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Originally posted by Greenpala:
As you see at the link, it says Chrysler 300 Phantom Edition. So chrysler is not sold as a Bentley or a Phantom - its a special edition.

My sincere apologizes...I should have looked at your website regarding your Chrysler before commenting on it - (I was just going by the statements made by others below).

By no means did I want to offend you by the statements that I made. But why advertise a vehicle you clearly have by a different make, model, and year. You could easily market the vehicle as a "1939 Excalibur inspired Limousine by Lincoln", and I would not question you.

I'm also not asking you that you have to educate all your potential clients on the all specifics of your vehicles. I do commend you on your website. I like that you actually place all the possible amenities of the vehicle and put real pictures of your vehicles (both inside and out) in your fleet, and not just stock photos - so your clients know that they get what they see. But it does not hurt to present truth upfront about the vehicle itself.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading some where on this board (I now can not find the post), that you were going to market your new Audi limousine as a Porsche as well to capitalize on more profitably potential. But that's like me trying to sell a red painted Granny Smith apple as a Red Delicious Apple to the unknowing public.

All the power to you in your endeavors.

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Originally posted by LIMOJESS:
I like how you use Comfortable: xx people and maximum xx people.

Well, if the max of the car is 12 and they have 12 people I push it towards booking a 16 pass SUV. Most of the times - they take a bigger car for more $. It works.

i would use the words replica or looks like or identical to in small prints when describing the vechicle

PS Greenpala, I like how you use Comfortable: xx people and maximum xx people.

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Originally posted by KC:
Maybe this should be moved to a new thread…But Greenpala, it is one thing to be driving around in your Chrysler 300 limousine, and having people drive by and think it is a Bentley – it’s another to advertise that you have a Bentley, and having people believe its is a Bentley when they are reserving it. Do you disclose this when your clients get their confirmation?

As you see at the link, it says Chrysler 300 Phantom Edition. So chrysler is not sold as a Bentley or a Phantom - its a special edition.

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And as far as your “1939 Excalibur Limousine”, which you indeed advertise as a “1939 Excalibur Limousine” on your website, when in fact it is probably a 1989 Lincoln Town Car, with some sort of kit built onto it…this is False Advertising (the deliberately use of false statements or deception in advertising, in order to gain a commercial advantage). There are Consumer Protection laws throughout the US to prosecute individuals or companies that practice in false advertising. All you have to do is get a client who is “Lawsuit Crazy” and sue you for not delivering on what you promised.

Well, we already have the car. What do you think we should do: put it in big letters FAKE EXCALIBUR? - (wow, definitelly people will book) or should we just sell the car then. Or maybe sell the whole company?

Since we have the car we may as well keep it and try to push it somehow. We never had any complaints yet that people didnt get the car they booked. Whatever we sell to people - first we show it to them. If they think its fake or whatever the story is - they will just move along and go to the next limo company. If they see the car (in this case fake excalibur) and they like it - they book it and that is what we send them. Its a different story if they saw one car and we sent them another one. If my boss decides to sell the car - he will do so. But for the mean time - hey if people like it - they will take it.

How many of you out there each time when new year arrives advertise towncar as eq. 2008. Everybody has 2003, 2004, 2005 that sell it as 2008. And what is that called - FALSE ADVERTISING. Same Consumer Protection laws apply to that as well. So everybody is pulling the same tricks in the book. You sell it however you can to make the payments on those cars.

Not everybody can afford to change a car every year or two. So they push '03s as '08s. Who is going to stop them. Customers will never tell the difference.

Everyone booking with us get exactly what they see. If they dont like it - they dont book it - simple - NEXT !

Maybe this should be moved to a new thread…But Greenpala, it is one thing to be driving around in your Chrysler 300 limousine, and having people drive by and think it is a Bentley – it’s another to advertise that you have a Bentley, and having people believe its is a Bentley when they are reserving it. Do you disclose this when your clients get their confirmation?

And as far as your “1939 Excalibur Limousine”, which you indeed advertise as a “1939 Excalibur Limousine” on your website, when in fact it is probably a 1989 Lincoln Town Car, with some sort of kit built onto it…this is False Advertising (the deliberately use of false statements or deception in advertising, in order to gain a commercial advantage). There are Consumer Protection laws throughout the US to prosecute individuals or companies that practice in false advertising. All you have to do is get a client who is “Lawsuit Crazy” and sue you for not delivering on what you promised.

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Originally posted by Cougars 2 go:
This just seems to me to knowingly deceive the naive public, basically counting on their ignorance to increase the perceived value of the product.

Yeah, pretty much. If people want to believe in it - hey I cant stop them. Same thing with our chrysler. When this car is on the road 80% of the times people think its Bentley - what am I going to tell them as a driver - NO?? LOL.
Let them believe all they want.

Chrysler 300 limousine

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Originally posted by the limo guy:

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Originally posted by Greenpala:

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Originally posted by the limo guy:
Nice cars BUT why would you advertise an Austin Princess as a `56 Rolls Royce ?????

Registration on the car is Austin Princes. Isnt that a type of Rolls Royce - like Silver Cloud?

Im not an expert on vintage cars so dont jump into conlusions. Most people dont see the difference. To them its a rolls Royce, they dont care if silver cloud any any other.

NEVER in your life is it the same as a Rolls-Royce!!! Thats like claiming your Chrysler 300 is a Bentley just because it has a "Bentley" style grill on front.Austin Princesses were primarily built to service the Funeral business in the U.K. Dont get me wrong,I love them,I used to have 4 of them...but I think its false to mislead customers by having them think its a Rolls -Royce and charging them Rolls-Royce prices.All my Princesses were never altered,all had original engines and no changes to the body were done.

The same thing here with this 80s Town Car claimed to be an Excalibur...a '39 for that matter:
http://www.royaluxury.com/fleet/excalibur_limo_new_york.html

This just seems to me to knowingly deceive the naive public, basically counting on their ignorance to increase the perceived value of the product.

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Originally posted by the limo guy:
All my Princesses were never altered,all had original engines and no changes to the body were done.

Well this car is still a stick shift with original engine. But people here (most brides) dont even know Austin Princes. That is why we must push this car on a market somehow. Besides, we are restoring an original 1953 Rolls Royce but it will take a while until its ready. It will not have the original engine because original engine parts are too hard on a wallet.

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Originally posted by Greenpala:

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Originally posted by the limo guy:
Nice cars BUT why would you advertise an Austin Princess as a `56 Rolls Royce ?????

Registration on the car is Austin Princes. Isnt that a type of Rolls Royce - like Silver Cloud?

Im not an expert on vintage cars so dont jump into conlusions. Most people dont see the difference. To them its a rolls Royce, they dont care if silver cloud any any other.

NEVER in your life is it the same as a Rolls-Royce!!! Thats like claiming your Chrysler 300 is a Bentley just because it has a "Bentley" style grill on front.Austin Princesses were primarily built to service the Funeral business in the U.K. Dont get me wrong,I love them,I used to have 4 of them...but I think its false to mislead customers by having them think its a Rolls -Royce and charging them Rolls-Royce prices.All my Princesses were never altered,all had original engines and no changes to the body were done.

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Originally posted by the limo guy:
Nice cars BUT why would you advertise an Austin Princess as a `56 Rolls Royce ?????

Registration on the car is Austin Princes. Isnt that a type of Rolls Royce - like Silver Cloud?

Im not an expert on vintage cars so dont jump into conlusions. Most people dont see the difference. To them its a rolls Royce, they dont care if silver cloud any any other.

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Originally posted by Greenpala:
I have a whole bunch of pretty good pics. Check out any one of the limos here:
Limousine Fleet

Let me know if you like anything. I have some high res pictures + I store a tons of wedding pictures with people posing by the limos. Let me know what cars you need.

Nice cars BUT why would you advertise an Austin Princess as a `56 Rolls Royce ?????

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Originally posted by Greenpala:

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Originally posted by J Paul White:

http://sumbitch.dyndns.org:8069/vv/personal/pictures/PICT0031.JPG

Sorry, link is DEAD.

You were correct sir. I feel like an idiot lol. I put the pic on my test web server which is open to only me. Its on my production server now. It should come up.

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Originally posted by KC:
Salicete - I love the reflection of the sunset on the limo. I hope you don't mind...I did a little processing/cropping on your photo. Let me know if you like it.

Nicely done!

I like it a lot.

Salicete - I love the reflection of the sunset on the limo. I hope you don't mind...I did a little processing/cropping on your photo. Let me know if you like it.

No calendar would be complete without the classic black Lincoln. Not a flashy location, but a nice sunset reflected on the car.

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