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Is it just me or are cabbies our arch enemies(at least 90% seem evil)? All they do all day and night is go around us, cut us off, and then block us while they pick up clients. Plus, everytime I signal(with additional hand signal) to paralel park, they ride my bumper. I then put my hazards on and try again and they still ride my bumper. I swear this happens everytime I go downtown. Then I try and be quick and pull forward and put my reverse lights on and they either stay on my bumper or try and srteal my spot. One time after pointing and screaming at the guy(I'm being good not to name call) that I was parking, he still pulled up as I backed up. Lets just say that a stock Excursion(lifted) bumper is much stronger than the headlight assembly and hood of a yellow cab. It happened right in front of a cop and he couldn't stop laughing when I told the guy to shut up and give me his insurance. The guy kept yelling at the cop, "Did you see him hit me, did you see him hit me?". The cop laughed as he said to listen to me and shut up and exchange insurance. I told my insurance that I would rather die than have them pay anything, so they didn't. I got calls and letters from yellow cab for about a year. Hates a strong word, but I hate cabbies.

Don't even get me started on shuttle busses at the airport. Those guys must really hate limo's.

I just saw the Adam Sandler movie "Zohan" and it portrays some stereotypes in a hilarious fashion, like Rob Schneider is a middle easter taxi driver who is always on his "bluetooth" and conducting other business while doing his taxi job.... or the israeli electronics shop, called "Going out of business sale", where they say "Sony $300" over the phone, but when you get there its really $400 and another brand, "made of Sony guts" and of course that guy is on bluetooth as well

Movie is OK but there are a few good jokes here and there.

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Originally posted by Mr.Frugality:
Nicole, but your the one grouping everyone, not I.... Once again, me: " look at driver before getting into cab, if cabbie look's like, ummmm you know," ...CAN MEAN ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO MEAN---uh, if the cabbie look's tired, or like your grandpapa, etc....it's written for the reader to interpret on their own, with that said, we all know how you interpreted what I wrote, let's continue, "then proceed to next cab, etc... And if all passenger's did this, certain group's would not drive cab's anymore," ... ah, group's can be defined as biker group's, generation group's---some young people like to support their generation, etc..." and maybe some terror group's " could be a terror group from any race, no race is prone to terror group's...."will go bankrupt...." well that speak's for itself...
Also, it's virtually impossible to prove because it is a cash biz with cab meter's never being audited.....almost impossible

Hey ladies and gents, I just got back from vacation in Monterey and I'm mostly stress free and ready to get back to work.

As much as this can be a racial subject, I really try hard not to let it be one. We all know most of these crazy cabbies that piss us off are of muslim background. It's just a fact and we need to keep ourselves in check and make sure we don't cross the line being prejudice. That being said, I feel most of these guys(90% in san diego) are knuckleheads and I can't stand them(cabbies, not muslims). I think it's the job. Being a cabbie is a very competitive business and they have to be stressing out trying to pay their bills. I have to think that they are a bit envious when they see us pull up with smiling clients, treating us like one of the family. That being said, I have met a lot of nice cabbies(but still only about 10%).

Nicole, but your the one grouping everyone, not I.... Once again, me: " look at driver before getting into cab, if cabbie look's like, ummmm you know," ...CAN MEAN ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO MEAN---uh, if the cabbie look's tired, or like your grandpapa, etc....it's written for the reader to interpret on their own, with that said, we all know how you interpreted what I wrote, let's continue, "then proceed to next cab, etc... And if all passenger's did this, certain group's would not drive cab's anymore," ... ah, group's can be defined as biker group's, generation group's---some young people like to support their generation, etc..." and maybe some terror group's " could be a terror group from any race, no race is prone to terror group's...."will go bankrupt...." well that speak's for itself...
Also, it's virtually impossible to prove because it is a cash biz with cab meter's never being audited.....almost impossible

Mr. Frugality, no problems here, with any races. (You did play the "race" card in your initial statement,

"My girlfriend takes cab's and I remind her often that it IS legal in chicago to pick whatever cab you want to take. I tell her to look at driver before getting into cab, if cabbie look's like, ummmm you know, then proceed to next cab, etc... And if all passenger's did this, certain group's would not drive cab's anymore, and maybe some terror group's will go bankrupt....That's my solution!!!")

However, I do have a problem with people choosing/making their choices, based on skin color, etc. It's great that one can choose which cab they can get into, but telling someone you care about to choose another cab if the driver is of middle eastern descent. I am so sick and tired of hearing this crap, because someone is black, because someone is white, because someone is of middle eastern descent, don't do it because they aren't our same skin color. We as a nation, and especially as an owner of an established business, should be intelligent enough now to know that you can't group everyone together just because someone that looks like them did something horrendous, or is related to a terrosit organization/country.

I don't have a problem with white men, married to one, actually, for the past 8 years! I was simply stating that most white men have taken higher paying jobs, leaving the lesser paying ones to others, like those of middle eastern descent, african americans, etc.

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Originally posted by Mr.Frugality:

Nicole, you missed the point, you read too far into it. Seem's that you have more problem's with the "race card" than I do...Never mentioned white,or any other race in my comment because that wasn't the point!!!! You did when you wrote, "a lot of white men" "white men don't drive cabs" "white men not work at mcdonald's" Jeez that is very squirrel minded thinking, the point was: THAT WE HAVE CHOICE when it comes to choosing what cab we get into. Passenger's have right's (CS list's about 25 passenger right's in chi.) in Chicago but I guess most are not aware that they can choose any cab even at the airport or they don't care. I illustrated this point in my post so other's may want to change their own local ordinance's. Not pointing any finger's at any particular race.

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Originally posted by LimoNewbie:
Mr. Frugality, while you do have some pretty valid points, and are entitled to an opinion, do whatever you must do to make you and your family (girlfriend) feel safe. Yes, I do know the majority of cab drivers are of middle eastern descent, who are we to assume and judge how they spend their money. They might not be sending it to terrorist groups, don't judge based on appearance. Yes, what happened a few years ago was tragic, and now, in this country, where racism is so prevalant, why not try to change the cycle? I'm sure some of my dollars spent at grocery stores, convenience stores, gas stations, might have ended up in those hands, does that make me a terrorist contributor purposefully? I know quite a few people who are of middle eastern descent, and are just here trying to live the american dream. This is whats wrong with this country. If anyone is different and not considered the norm, they are lumped into a category, w/out trying to find out who they really are, and what they are about. I had a good friend, who makes an honest living, has a lot of money, but yet was turned down at a night club. This is a man who constantly cheers you up, chases women, and is very good hearted, almost like a child. A lot of white men, driving regular cars, drive just as bad as some cabbies. Why do you think white men don't drive cabs as much anymore? Why do white men not work at McDonalds, or other smaller paying jobs anymore? We've left those jobs because they don't pay as well as corporate jobs, etc. This is my assumption.

Nicole, you missed the point, you read too far into it. Seem's that you have more problem's with the "race card" than I do...Never mentioned white,or any other race in my comment because that wasn't the point!!!! You did when you wrote, "a lot of white men" "white men don't drive cabs" "white men not work at mcdonald's" Jeez that is very squirrel minded thinking, the point was: THAT WE HAVE CHOICE when it comes to choosing what cab we get into. Passenger's have right's (CS list's about 25 passenger right's in chi.) in Chicago but I guess most are not aware that they can choose any cab even at the airport or they don't care. I illustrated this point in my post so other's may want to change their own local ordinance's. Not pointing any finger's at any particular race.

The basic foundation of this Nation has been built on the blood, sweat & tears of slaves & immigrants from around the world & with that being said, in some major US Cities there seems to have been a gravitation for the immigrants from the Arab Countries to the VFH Industry which is not by all means limited to taxicabs.

All one has to do is review the 15k+ listings of limos & blackcars running in NYC & predominantly obvious are names of Middle Eastern origin.

Of course, along with this overpowering influx of immigrant VFH driver's will be customs, driving habits and attitudes that will run against the grain of others & I can see people reacting differently to the brashness of Ali from Pakistan compared with old Irish Micky from days gone bye.

Frugal does have a valid point of concern if funds derived from some of these businesses are making their way back to terrorist groups. But again, GE has been under the gun for supplying material to Iran.

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Mr. Frugality, while you do have some pretty valid points, and are entitled to an opinion, do whatever you must do to make you and your family (girlfriend) feel safe. Yes, I do know the majority of cab drivers are of middle eastern descent, who are we to assume and judge how they spend their money. They might not be sending it to terrorist groups, don't judge based on appearance. Yes, what happened a few years ago was tragic, and now, in this country, where racism is so prevalant, why not try to change the cycle? I'm sure some of my dollars spent at grocery stores, convenience stores, gas stations, might have ended up in those hands, does that make me a terrorist contributor purposefully? I know quite a few people who are of middle eastern descent, and are just here trying to live the american dream. This is whats wrong with this country. If anyone is different and not considered the norm, they are lumped into a category, w/out trying to find out who they really are, and what they are about. I had a good friend, who makes an honest living, has a lot of money, but yet was turned down at a night club. This is a man who constantly cheers you up, chases women, and is very good hearted, almost like a child. A lot of white men, driving regular cars, drive just as bad as some cabbies. Why do you think white men don't drive cabs as much anymore? Why do white men not work at McDonalds, or other smaller paying jobs anymore? We've left those jobs because they don't pay as well as corporate jobs, etc. This is my assumption.

Here in Chicago cabbie complaint's are regultated through the Dept. Of Consumer Services. All a motorist or passenger has to do is call CS (consumer services) and include cab # which is same as plate #. CS will then mail a court date (mickey mouse type court), complaintant must show unless disabled. If cabbie is found guilty, they get a fine which varies depending on offense, second time, higher fine, etc... Only problem with this is cabbies know that most people won't bother going through this process and if they do, they know most won't show up in court. But, even if the complaintant doesn't show, the cabbie had to spend time out of his/her day including $$ for gas to get there. So the cabbies argue this point that the system is bad for them.
Also, people taking cab's, not all, some, are contributing to terrorisim. How? Well, I can't prove this, maybe someone with rank and who gives a dam will prove this. But I suspect that terror groups from middle east are having fund's deposited to them via cabbies here, like maybe a donation system where cabbies that agree with terror donate $$ they make from driving cab's here (passenger's $$) to their fav. terror group. I had a fight with a cabbie at ohare airport lot cause he almost side swipped limo pulling into lot, confronted him, told me fu, well, when I hit him, about 100 middle eastern's came running from everywhere to attack me, LIKE COCKROACH'S!!! Well I knew they knew camera's were around so I didn't run, as they huddled around, I spoke telling them what an ass there "brother" was, as they didn't believe what was said (maybe because their brother had a bloddy nose he was attending to). Well right after speaking, a plain clothed homeland security guy walk's up in the crowd to us and give's a wave / hand signal of some type that dispersed the group. Our airport cater's to muslim's, meaning they have recently built a seperate shelter area including a/c for when they pray. Limo driver section has NO enclosed area with a/c. Were sweating trying to find shade somewhere!!! I think that's BS!!!! It's like the city is bribing them so they can have cab driver's stay in this city and not go elsewhere.
My girlfriend takes cab's and I remind her often that it IS legal in chicago to pick whatever cab you want to take. I tell her to look at driver before getting into cab, if cabbie look's like, ummmm you know, then proceed to next cab, etc... And if all passenger's did this, certain group's would not drive cab's anymore, and maybe some terror group's will go bankrupt....That's my solution!!!

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:
Hey Limo King of L.A., I'm the Limo King of S.D.
I've heard good things about Jonny Cab. I read that article and think cab should either raise their rates or charge a fuel charge.

WHat up dude!

My buddy Greg runs a nice company in SD,
http://www.citylimousineservices.com/main/index.asp

Small fleet - about 15 limos or so... but a very nice guy!

What company are you with, out of curiosity?

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Originally posted by Cedar Mill Limousine:
A lot of them come from countries where driving like they do is normal. A lot of them are tired from driving 24/7. A lot of them are just jerks-I had one up at O'Hare gun it at me when I was walking across lot to get stamps!

I had one pull a gun out of his glove box because he was mad at me for being double parked while I was picking up my clients in front of the club. I smiled and told him I had one in my glove box also(a bluff by the way) and he should either shoot me or be gone before I grabbed it. As I reached into my limo, he burned rubber.

A lot of them come from countries where driving like they do is normal. A lot of them are tired from driving 24/7. A lot of them are just jerks-I had one up at O'Hare gun it at me when I was walking across lot to get stamps!

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:

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Originally posted by FredG:
hahaha San Diegan taxis crack me up. 99% of them are Ethiopian for some reason. Less than half of them know what they are doing, I often see them racing towards red lights, not timing lights, bad lane changes, and in general, it seems like most don't know the area too well, or at least don't know how to navigate (unless they are trying to make a larger fare by always going the longer way)

Did you see the Union tribune front page on Friday? I dont know how this made the front page headlines

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080620-9999-1n20taxi.html



Anyways, whenever I am at my vacation house in SD and I plan on going out and drinking, I call my buddy Jonny cab at (619) 920-0469 he runs a few lincoln town cars at taxi prices, simply call whenever i need him just like a taxi. Always a smooth and easy ride.

Hey Limo King of L.A., I'm the Limo King of S.D.
I've heard good things about Jonny Cab. I read that article and think cab should either raise their rates or charge a fuel charge.

from what i seen taxi drivers is just far to agressive on the rode. do most of these guys turn in to agressive drivers after they start drivingg taxis or were they most likely agressive drivers before they even started up with driving taxis?

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Originally posted by FredG:
hahaha San Diegan taxis crack me up. 99% of them are Ethiopian for some reason. Less than half of them know what they are doing, I often see them racing towards red lights, not timing lights, bad lane changes, and in general, it seems like most don't know the area too well, or at least don't know how to navigate (unless they are trying to make a larger fare by always going the longer way)

Did you see the Union tribune front page on Friday? I dont know how this made the front page headlines

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080620-9999-1n20taxi.html



Anyways, whenever I am at my vacation house in SD and I plan on going out and drinking, I call my buddy Jonny cab at (619) 920-0469 he runs a few lincoln town cars at taxi prices, simply call whenever i need him just like a taxi. Always a smooth and easy ride.

Hey Limo King of L.A., I'm the Limo King of S.D.
I've heard good things about Jonny Cab. I read that article and think cab should either raise their rates or charge a fuel charge.

hahaha San Diegan taxis crack me up. 99% of them are Ethiopian for some reason. Less than half of them know what they are doing, I often see them racing towards red lights, not timing lights, bad lane changes, and in general, it seems like most don't know the area too well, or at least don't know how to navigate (unless they are trying to make a larger fare by always going the longer way)

Did you see the Union tribune front page on Friday? I dont know how this made the front page headlines

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080620-9999-1n20taxi.html



Anyways, whenever I am at my vacation house in SD and I plan on going out and drinking, I call my buddy Jonny cab at (619) 920-0469 he runs a few lincoln town cars at taxi prices, simply call whenever i need him just like a taxi. Always a smooth and easy ride.

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Originally posted by badfelafel:

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:The limo business has been great medicine for my "old" road rage habits.

100% know that one! You have to rise above it all and be professional when there's clients in the car, and it has carried on through all my driving

Grin and bear it. It's the best thing(when you have clients).

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:The limo business has been great medicine for my "old" road rage habits.

100% know that one! You have to rise above it all and be professional when there's clients in the car, and it has carried on through all my driving

I know quite a few local cabbies and in general endeavor to get along with them. If one behaved like Mr. Levine says I would call 911 and report him for erratic driving. When I was driving a limousine that's how we used to deal with the bad driver element. I knew a chauffeur who used to sneak up on the cabs and put a civilian bumper sticker on their rear bumper. LOL !!

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:
Is it just me or are cabbies our arch enemies(at least 90% seem evil)? All they do all day and night is go around us, cut us off, and then block us while they pick up clients. Plus, everytime I signal(with additional hand signal) to paralel park, they ride my bumper. I then put my hazards on and try again and they still ride my bumper. I swear this happens everytime I go downtown. Then I try and be quick and pull forward and put my reverse lights on and they either stay on my bumper or try and srteal my spot. One time after pointing and screaming at the guy(I'm being good not to name call) that I was parking, he still pulled up as I backed up. Lets just say that a stock Excursion(lifted) bumper is much stronger than the headlight assembly and hood of a yellow cab. It happened right in front of a cop and he couldn't stop laughing when I told the guy to shut up and give me his insurance. The guy kept yelling at the cop, "Did you see him hit me, did you see him hit me?". The cop laughed as he said to listen to me and shut up and exchange insurance. I told my insurance that I would rather die than have them pay anything, so they didn't. I got calls and letters from yellow cab for about a year. Hates a strong word, but I hate cabbies.

Don't even get me started on shuttle busses at the airport. Those guys must really hate limo's.

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Originally posted by gunny:
The only thing I hate worse than cabbies (excluding the NLA & LCT) is the "NLA" & "TLPA" backed/directorship Limo Farking Taxiheads who want the limo industry to be regulated ala taxicab style

Thats the way it is in the UK now, the criteria does not fit Limos but we go along with it because we have to at the moment, that said, my licensing authority could not have been more helpful

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Originally posted by MarkRi:

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:

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Originally posted by MarkRi:

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Originally posted by Geoff Levine:
Is it just me or are cabbies our arch enemies(at least 90% seem evil)? All they do all day and night is go around us, cut us off, and then block us while they pick up clients. Plus, everytime I signal(with additional hand signal) to paralel park, they ride my bumper. I then put my hazards on and try again and they still ride my bumper. I swear this happens everytime I go downtown. Then I try and be quick and pull forward and put my reverse lights on and they either stay on my bumper or try and srteal my spot. One time after pointing and screaming at the guy(I'm being good not to name call) that I was parking, he still pulled up as I backed up. Lets just say that a stock Excursion(lifted) bumper is much stronger than the headlight assembly and hood of a yellow cab. It happened right in front of a cop and he couldn't stop laughing when I told the guy to shut up and give me his insurance. The guy kept yelling at the cop, "Did you see him hit me, did you see him hit me?". The cop laughed as he said to listen to me and shut up and exchange insurance. I told my insurance that I would rather die than have them pay anything, so they didn't. I got calls and letters from yellow cab for about a year. Hates a strong word, but I hate cabbies.

Don't even get me started on shuttle busses at the airport. Those guys must really hate limo's.

Geoff you must of reely been mad to hit him with youre big excursion like that. takes alot of courage to hit someone on intention.

I think I miscommunicated what happened. I was backing into my parking spot and he rear ended me. This happened on my third attempt to put in in reverse and back up. In California, it is usually 100% negligence on the person behind that isn't giving you enough room. I have a perfectly clean record with no tickets or "at fault" accidents. The cabby should have thanked me for not going to the chiropractor.

thats strange it was 100% his fault but the cab company kept on bugging youre insurence company for a year.
i seen some taxi drivers get awfull agressive at the airports. i seen alot of limo drivers get reel agressive at airports to, everyone fighting for a peace of ground an risking a fender bender. i know alot of them guys an i just stand there and watch its like they are doctor jekyll and mr hide. nice one minute and next minute behind the wheel they are like the devil. minute they drive on airpot property there shulders go up, frown comes on there face and there ready to fight. one time i seen a taxi cut a limo off, so the limo driver speeds up and jumps back in front of the taxi and SLAMS on his breaks big time, i knkow the limo driver who did that an i never thought he had it in him to do something so agressive

Legally it was 100% his fault and thats why my insurance didn't pay. But morally I take some responsibility and thats why I didn't turn my damage over to his insurance.

Losing your temper behind the wheel is never a good idea, especially in a commercial vehicle. Hopefully you had a talk with those guys playing the games. The limo business has been great medicine for my "old" road rage habits. When you're driving a limo, it's best to just grin and bear it. But once in a while it's fun to have a few words when you're not stuck with cl